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Safe Number Of Backlinks To Add Per Day?

Discussion in 'Link Building' started by moserw, Jun 7, 2010.

  1. moserw

    moserw Junior Member

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    Hi,

    What's a safe number of backlinks to add per day without getting a Google ban? This is for a brand new domain and site.
     
  2. Klaus Rudolfsen

    Klaus Rudolfsen Registered Member

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    I reckon it's import not how many backlinks per day you add, but instead how many of them are getting indexed how fast. You could add 1000 BL and none of them gets indexed nothing will happen. Add a thousand and ping them all you probably get sandboxed / banned.

    Always keep in mind that you want them to look natural. Also you wouldn't want to direct link you money site too much.
     
  3. moserw

    moserw Junior Member

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    Thanks. Its using SEOLinkVine and they are getting indexed pretty much within 24 hours. I'm planning on limiting to a maximum of 15 links per day. Might be too less but they are minisites with not much competition so they should rank pretty well.

    BTW I'm only building a single site with inbound links from all over. Not really planning a link wheel or other sites to point to the money site as such. Really don't have the time for it as need to get 100 sites done in about 3 to 3.5 months. Hence using SEOLinkVine to spread the links all over. If I get time maybe will do Ezine and others, but don't really know how with so many sites to build.
     
  4. danhoff

    danhoff Power Member

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    I always start slow with new sites. 10-20 links in the first week, also remember to link to your deep content as well. every week i double the amount of links i add. after about 3 months i go crazy :).
     
  5. moserw

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    Thanks, will keep it in mind to go slow and increase with time. Yes, I'm linking to all internal pages too as the sites themselves are 4-5 pages.
     
  6. spiider

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    and don't forget to change your anchor text.
     
  7. danhoff

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    and add "click here", visit site", "go to" to your anchor text .
     
  8. zai21

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    It doesn't matter (well it does) but depends on how you link build. If you link build with sites (forums, blog comments, link exchanges, etc) than it will take sometime for those pages to get indexed. If I was you I would just do a few hours of link building a day and KEEP IT CONSISTENT. If you become lazy than consider your site not to rank anytime soon.
     
  9. pipey

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    Build up a pace, start with 10-20 backlinks per day, then just stick with that for a week, then build 15-25 backclinks per day, then next week move up another 5/10 whatever suites you, stable backlink increases are the best way to avoid being sandboxed.
     
  10. webaddict

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    I agree with a lot of things said. But if your site is BRAND spanking new you really shouldn't be getting 15 links a day. You should start off with a 2-3, then 3-5, then stable at the level for 2 weeks. Use tools to make sure these links are being indexed and monitor your rankings in the engines if you have any or establish any. You will notice your rankings go up and go back down as different nodes update your rankings.

    One thing that was mentioned is consistency and this is really important. Since you are using SEOLinkVine (great tool by the way) you should build it over time instead of using up all the syndication at once.

    Someone mentioned varying your anchor text and then someone else above said add click here, go here, visit this etc. This is a really smart idea to make sure that you are producing legit links. Websites do not naturally obtain all targeted anchor text links. Pretend you were some random schmuck linking to your website in a couple sentences. 50% of the time they won't link real keywords to your site. So do 50% of your linking to random links, focus the others on your targeted ranking keywords.

    When spinning use the method to rotate out the targeted anchor links to the untargeted.

    If you [think|believe|often think|truly believe|honestly believe|know] your [dog training|dog's training|canine's success in training|training regimine] is important to you, you should [check out this dog training manual|click this link|visit here|read this dog training guide|get this canine training book|hop on over here].

    Above is honestly not a very great example of a spin but the dog training manual section would have links on your target keywords. It would also have links on the visit here, hop on over here, etc. This will rotate with a probability rate to help you achieve more nature linking. Don't strictly do your target phrases, spin in the other random stuff. :p

    Also, very important, do not JUST do SEOLinkVine. One of the worst things someone can do in link building is to remain focused on one method. Make a list of around 20 different ways to get links. Do one every single day along with your SLV promotions. Varied links from all different types of properties is imperative to success and long time valuable rankings. Dabble in social media (Twitter, MySpace, Facebook, Tumbler, Posterous, Flickr, Plurk etc etc), social bookmarking (Digg, Mixx, StumbleUpon, Reddit, Delicious), blog commenting, forums, article sites like Ezine, Feeder sites like HubSpot and Squidoo, Guest Blogging, Product reviews, Yahoo Answers, Emails with your links in them (add to signatures), Directory listings and trade lists. I could go on. But VARY your link building. While SLV varies your links to lots of different blogs on different IPs it is still all just blogs and they are all happening at the same time, in the same pattern and in the same footprint whether you're spinning your articles or not.

    Most important? Stick with it. Consistency.

    Truth be told? 300 websites? Dream on. You will never obtain valuable rankings for 300 websites as a one man operation. You might GET some great rankings but you will not hold them. If you're looking to do some smash and grab traffic rankings this theory will work. I have some spammy Traffic Equalizer sites I have made 4 - 6 years ago and they are still pulling in traffic. I have one that is actually earning $8 - $15 a day and I haven't touched it in 3 years. BUT, what they now have going for them is age, PR and consistency and long domain registrations.

    Good luck and keep up the link building.
     
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  11. halfpoint

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    As many as humanly possible.

    When a new site gets a bunch of links it will benefit from the QDF effect (Query Deserves Freshness) and as a result, your site will jump up the rankings very quickly.

    However, after your sites content is no longer "fresh" and new it will fall back down to where it should be and this is when people incorrectly cry "Sandbox".

    It's completely normal for your site to act that way so my advice is to build as many links as possible and continue to do so. Don't get discouraged if it dances and jumps around all over the place, just keep going. Right from the get go.
     
  12. *Candi*

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    I think 25-30 links per day are safe at the starting for a new site.
    When it get older it can linked with more links but not more than 200 per day.
     
  13. kboxer7

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    Personally, until my site is 2-3 months old I focus on no more than 100 QUALITY links per month...at which point I ramp up the linking process substancially.
     
  14. Mr Allante

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    I link 10-20 a day but it depends on where you are linking from. If you are linking from article directories you don't know when the link will be approved.
     
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    I think you are right.
    But when you build links with anchor text you can do as you can!
    :fencing:
     
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    While I agree with Pat Jackson... if you can build your own links as fast as possible and can continue with that over the extent of your website... Then do it.

    This is how I do it though... with an example of a 50 page site

    Get indexed
    Month 1 add 40 links
    Month 2 add 65 links
    Month 3 add 95 links

    Ect ect... then after Month 3 if I have sub domains, I do the same for them... but keep increasing my links back to my main page.

    I keep this pattern as best I can for the first year... so at month 12 I am adding about 600 links a month towards my main domain and a few hundred towards my subdomains or articles.

    Look natural!

    I have a lot of patience when it comes to IM and I think it has done me well. Any time I take a site online, I invest %100 of its income back into marketing, link building for at least 6 months.

    I know how to make 5k with a site in 6 months that dies off... and I also know how to make 5k off a site per year for 4 years +

    At the very least, experiment. I outsource all of my link building. Some of it is very very cheap here on BHW... though I havent used a whole lot of the services... its worth the money to try them out.

    Disclaimer - I outsource every fucking thing I can :D
     
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  17. moserw

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    Thanks all for the inputs.

    Going to check out some backlinking outsourcing myself. That way I can concentrate on the sites and the content.
     
  18. squidhelp

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    there isn't really any safe number of backlinks to build per day. but most important thumb of rule is to actually once you started building links, you have to constantly maintain the same number. if you stop suddenly google would be suspicious and your site may be thrown off the serps
     
  19. XTR3M3 XPL01T3R

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    OMG, I did a mistake :( i used scrapebox for my new site to build backlinks and i did 500 in one day.. I think google will sandbox my site.. i was not aware.. if google bans my site, how to recover from it ? :(
     
  20. mvhs

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    I think as long as the backlinks are from quality sites, you shouldn't get sandboxed.