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(RV Lifestyle) Steal this thread/Blast from the past

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by kallen, Jun 8, 2009.

  1. kallen

    kallen Regular Member

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    Ok, so this will be my 50th post so I thought I'd do something unusual and talk about a new lifestyle I am thinking about trying... For startes it may be helpful to know that I am married and have a 2yr old daughter, so my situation is much different than many here for whom this would actually be much easier... It is a lifestyle that I believe is perfect for a young IM'er, someone who wants to get away from home and strike out on their own and be a free spirit so to speak... Thi is nothing new, actually ALOT of retied people do it, but the more I research it (and live it once a month or so for a few days) the more I see youngER people doing it... Don't see many real young (18-20 types though, but in this economy this is a perfect way to start out on your own IMHO) So... on with the idea...

    They call it "Fulltiming" and what it is is living aboard a motorhome full time instead of an apartment or house... Now before your mind instantly turns to imagine being a 'bum', or a 'drifter' or that an RV is too expensive, you gotta think about it differently (and I know this is not for everyone).

    I happen to be lucky enough to have a nice 36' diesel powered motorhome with a slide out and all that crap that is paid for, but its not really necessary to have and a 5th wheel (or bumper pulled trailer) towed behind a full-size truck is a much more cost effective way to go. The economy is so jacked up right now that you can find super nice ones where people will let you take over payments on theirs just to get out of debt, and other people are forced to sell theirs for cheap trying to scrape together the cash to save their house from going into forclosure... Anyway, you can get into a fairly new one by taking over payments, or pay cash for one (they go from $1500 to well to millions actually... but trailers you can find for 1500 for a hoopty, 5,000 will get you something halfway descent, and 10-20 grand will get you into a pretty nice one... Anyway... so that is the big expense really... after that you can live very cheap, in fact, almost for free if you play your cards right and are not afraid to do a little work... So here's the thing... I've been all over the country and stay in RV parks all the time and they are NICE! They aint no ghetto 'trailer park' type thing for sure (although i'm sure there are some someplace, but rv parks are just nothe same thing as a 'trailer park'... Sometimes I stay in an RV 'Resort' and the most I pay is $35 a night at a resort, and in most states the normal rate is about 20-25 a night... The usual weekly rate is anywhere from 100-150, and the monthly rate is between 300 (for a descent park) to $750 for a resort. (they obviously can go much higher if you are somewhere real nice, but usually when they are more than that they are like country-club type stuff and require you to have a $100,000+ rig to stay there at all)... Now... here is what you get for that money (in almost all RV parks) that is electricity, cable, water, sewer, trash, AND WIFI included! Hell, just my TV/PHONE/INTERNET bundle is about $130 a month, Just my electric in my 1200sq ft apt is $300 a month! Gas is another $20, trash/sewer/water etc is another $80... We're talking about $530 a month just for my utilities, nevermind my $1500 in rent...

    Now, I promised you a way to life for free... so here it is... MANY MANY MANY RV parks use what they call "Work Kampers" to do various odd jobs... like running the little convenience store or bait shop or whatever, or groundskeeping or whatever in exchange for a free RV spot. The usual deal is 15 hours a week work for a free spot (2 days a week pays the rent basically)... Soooo, depending on what level you are at with your IM this may or may not be a good deal for you, but if you are like most of us alot of things are automated anyway (set up your scrapers and mailers and autoresponders and whatnot and go sit down at the store and check some people in and sell some potato chips or whatever while your laptop is working away back in your rv) Some small parks may be so slow you can take your laptop up to the counter and work on IM while your working the counter!

    Now all you have to pay for is gas money, beer money & food money :) Also, you now get to write off almost your entire LIFE on your taxes if you do it right... Put some signs on your RV and it is a business/advertising expense, and of course all of your travel is for business right? Save all those gas and food reciepts from your travels! Did I mention the bigger parks usually have 3-4 different hot spots with different IP's? :) I have even stayed in a couple that had hotels all around me and was able to have my pick of as many as 10 different un-secured networks all within range!

    You may be thinking there aren't THAT many RV parks, but I can tell you this, the RV park directory book I use is bigger than any phone book I've ever seen and almost every city in the USA has at LEAST 1 (even redneck boon-dock towns have them all over!) Bigger cities have 20-30 to choose from. Example... Tuscon Arizona most have 20-30, Pheonix AZ has 20-30 parks, Dallas area probably has 40... They are usually just on the outskirts of town, but sometimes they are smack in the middle.

    Anyway, its just something I am thinking about doing myself, and I thought some other black hatters maybe interested and/or something someone may have never even thought of before... It is quite common actually (and I'd be willing to bet there are at least a couple people right here on BHW who are already doing this)

    I'd be more than happy to answer any questions anyone may have on the subject as I've been researching it for about a year or better now, and been RV'ing part time for a couple of years.

    Now to end this long winded post with a little share that is SUPER OLDSCHOOL BH Stuff that is SO OLD I bet many youngsters have never seen it... Sort of a history lesson if you will... It is Abbie Hoffman's "Steal this Book" that is chock full of interesting stuff... circa 1970's:yield:

    Here is a link,

    http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_63/3175000/3175856/1/print/steal_original_a5_content.pdf
     
  2. kallen

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    What the heck... I keep losing posts somewhere, someone go around deleting them or something?
     
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    Nice post... I'm not a full timer, but am working toward getting myself a rig and hitting the road for a bit. Not sure whether I want keep a home base here in TN, or just venture out and about. If I do, I might opt for an air card/cell phone to insure myself of a connection.

    Definitely have to make a stop at slab city... I'm sure you've heard of that.
     
  4. kallen

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    Very good point on the air card, i forgot to mention that. I have one of those too and comes in VERY handy, but for the full timer (who sets up camp for a week or a month at a time it is less of a necessity, but still good to have). My home base WAS in Texas but I'm selling it to my renter I have in there now just to get out from under it. I owe about t its worth and I hated Texas. I'm in So Cal now (born and raised) in an APT and I cant stand paying these prices for a rental. Its sort of a 'forced' thing (lost my job and all that)... Its complicate, but I have tons of stuff to sell worth big bucks... I'm sorta having a mid-life-crisis I think and just want a fresh start.... So I'm selling all my stuff to pay the rent, and when its all gone we will declare bankruptsy, take off in the RV for probably a year or 2, save money and then buy another house... meanwhile I'm honing my bh skills and intend to do it full time for my living.

    Never been to slab city actually, but i've heard of it.