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Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by bartosimpsonio, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. bartosimpsonio

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    Russia Speeds Up Law to Ban Most Foreign Web Services

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/...-to-ban-most-foreign-web-services/507820.html

    The State Duma approved a bill to expedite a new set of Internet regulations that, experts say, would provide for the banning of such web services as Facebook, Booking.com and Amazon.
    A law requiring all online companies to store users' personal data on Russian territory was passed last July and was set to enter into effect in September 2016.
    Concerned about the need to "ensure faster and more effective protection of Russian citizens' rights to telecommunication privacy and personal data safety," lawmakers submitted a bill to slide the deadline forward by more than a year, according to the Duma's website.
    The bill to set the deadline to Jan. 1, 2015, passed in the crucial second reading on Wednesday.
     
  2. nanavlad

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    How the world has changed, it used to be the Russians who spied on their people
    Now its the good old USA,

    What next CIA agents dressed as tourist guides
     
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    i think its a good one. data should be stored within country according to the countries rule.
     
  4. hacko

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    And why is that? This is just pure old censorship - adults should be able to come across any type of information they want to, and even if security is the excuse, I would rather risk it and try to defend myself than let any government (and most of them have proven to be a bunch of irrational, corrupt little shits) try to take care of me like a little kid.
     
  5. DenisWeb

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    The same rule will be for russian social services like vkontakte,yandex etc.
     
  6. lancis

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    Russians would turn off the Internet if they could. Unfortunately for them, its impossible, and they are forced to settle for an Intranet. Personal data on local servers is a great initiative, sadly in this case, its just another step towards isolation from the outer world.
     
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    Good for them ,more space for other sites to rank for travel and eCommerce keywords..these giants have taken over the first page for every possible hotel out there. No way Booking is THAT good result.....

    Why, cause you can't book a trip on some other travel site? Like Expedia or Kayak or HotelsCombined or whichever site decided to store personal data on Russian servers...?
     
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    That will be a good opportunity for local sites to get some ranks.
    If you have data of residents of a country then you should definitely store in territory of that country. But, those big players will until then buy servers in russia and i not think if it will give a big boost to russian local sites.
    -=-
     
  9. Grizzy

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    Wat?

    They still do spy on their own people, MUCH MUCH MORE then the USA does. It's not even remotely fair to a compare the two countries. In America there is massive backlash against the NSA for domestic spying: in the media, on social networks, by political opposition, etc... In Russia people who cause the Kremlin a headache get thrown in jail or worse.

    You don't seriously buy the official "protection of Russian citizens" explanation do you? The whole reason for this law is to make it super easy for them to spy on their own people and also to be able to control every aspect of the media in Russia. Might as well throw up a great firewall like the Chinese. Putin wants Russians only source of news and information to be government backed propaganda machines like RT.

    In the old Soviet Union you had to register your type writer with the government, now so called "political bloggers" will be required to register with the government as well.

    Good lord, could you imagine if the US Congress passed a law that outlawed foreign websites and required bloggers to register with the authorities?? There would be a violent revolution before it even got to the president's desk.
     
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    There will never be a revolution in America. It's a country of patriots and they will bite the bullet in hope for better times. Most Americans don't care what is happening outside of their country, sadly.
     
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    Nope. After Crimea the Russian media contains nothing but an aggressive propaganda. It looks like a collaborative government effort to mentally rape the entire population. The new laws pretty much correlate with that propaganda, and it doesn't take a genius to understand how its gonna end.
     
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    What? There are other countries besides USA?
     
  13. Grizzy

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    Most human beings don't care about what's happening outside their little bubble. Americans are no different.

    There will never be a revolution in America because for the most part it's a relatively well governed democratic nation. There will never be a need for one. *waits for backlash*
     
  14. jazzc

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    Oh, a backlash. And? Did NSA stop? From what I remember they are defending their spy program as virtuous.

    Plus, I think the US is much more technologically advanced on computers than Russia, so it's rather weird to expect that their spying capabilities are not as well.
     
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    Of course they are going to defend it, they legitimately believe that their actions are justified when it comes to protecting Americans at home and abroad.

    The point is, in the US the NSA is actually forced to defend their position publicly. NSA representatives have had to go in front of House and Senate committees and explain their actions and deceptions in a very transparent way. Lawmakers have held their feet to the fire and called for further investigations. Obama (albeit slowly and tentatively) has agreed to reign in the NSA's ability to collect and store huge amounts of information. There WILL be reform. Russia on the other hand...

    Russia is also really good at spying on their own people. Over the last several years Russia has been transformed into the sort of surveillance state that former KGB architects only dreamed of. Ever heard of SORM? The FSB is held to no where near the same standards as the NSA. Here's a nice little opinion piece that does a good job contrasting the two agencies: NSA Is No Match for the FSB
     
  18. jazzc

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    So you're saying NSA will stop stying Americans. I think it's just for show and absolutely nothing will change. Ping me in a year and let me know if you were right ;)

    It's like having a killer say hey, that dude over there killed people too. Not much of an argument for his piety, is it? :)
     
  19. prab1996

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    TO grizzy and jazzc. I see the future of this thread.
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    Here is something interesting I found a while ago:

    A few years back I did some "Internet archaeology" and I found Sir Tim Berners-Lee's original proposal for a "world wide web network" from 1989. He said he wants it to be a FREE and OPEN platform for anyone to share knowledge. He wanted it to be totally open and transparent.

    Although I think the NSA are bastards for spying on us, but the best way to not be spied on on the internet is not use it. I say any internet censorship is far worse than spying.

    Thats just me though - keeping to Tim's ethos.