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Run a Windows VM on your dedicated server and get rid of your windows server for SEO

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bfly1, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. bfly1

    bfly1 Registered Member

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    As like many blackhatters, I have been paying for a dedicated server running Ubuntu Server as well as paying $60/mo for a 4GB memory (100MB) Windows server for running GSA, Xrumer, Scrapebox and UD. Since dedicated servers are coming with more memory now for a reasonable price I thought it would be nice if I could run a Windows VM on my linux box and eliminate my Windows server.

    In my case I actually upgraded to a 1GB connection and now am running everything from a single server with 2 Xeon E5 CPU and 32GB Memory.

    Setting it all up was surprisingly easy on Ubuntu Server 12.04, I just had to:

    apt-get install xrdp unity-2d

    and then: gdm restart

    This will install an open source remote desktop server on your system. You can then use "Cord" (OSX) or the windows remote desktop client to connect to your server desktop.

    After that I followed the directions at this link for installing VMware Player: (Couldnt post the link, but it is on howtogeek titled "Run windows in ubuntu with vmware player")

    I am running my VM with 6GB memory and everything is running really fast. I thought other people may be interested in going this route and trim their server bills.
     
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  2. bfly1

    bfly1 Registered Member

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    Just wanted to add, you can also assign an ip address to your windows server once it is running if you have another available, you can just remote desktop directly to your windows server then.
     
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    futurestunner BANNED BANNED

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    Anything new do you have?
     
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    irmscher Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    That sounds like a good solution, I was looking for a way to emulate Windows OS on my linux server.
     
  5. elpaisito

    elpaisito Registered Member

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    Yes. That's the way to go.
    You also can use virtualbox as an alternative to vmware player.
     
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    kuzmanin Regular Member

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    Is it fast enough when you are under remote support?
     
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    bfly1 Registered Member

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    Do you mean is there lag? No, it is very fast, I can't tell any difference between this system and my VPS I had before.
     
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    Which linux dedi provider you are using?
     
  9. mikeydell

    mikeydell Senior Member

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    This is actually a pretty decent idea, I see you have a pretty hefty server though. I wonder how this would work on a 10gig ram machine and wether or not there would be alot of performance issues. Most certainly going to look into doing something like this. Thanks
     
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    bfly1 Registered Member

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    Depending on what you are running on the server, you could pull off a 2GB or 4GB virtual machine possibly. In my case my site is more or less a search engine, so my MySQL server is using quite a bit of memory for performance reasons. That is why I have a pretty powerful server.
     
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    cooooookies Senior Member

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    Also doing that, this is a completely doable way. But I never got any performance boost (also on my home computer) when assigning multiple cores ==> only single core performance. For most tools this is enough, for XRumer this is a considerable drawback.

    bfly1, which "search enginge" do you use? nutch? something hand made (what I am doing)? Also using Lucene?
     
  12. Drageth

    Drageth Newbie

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    I've been using this idea for a few months and a fyi sometimes vmware NAT can be buggy and you'll have to restart vmware's nat about every 2-3 weeks because you'll receive massive lag etc..
     
  13. elpaisito

    elpaisito Registered Member

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    There are some offers at webhostingtalk all the time regarding dedicated servers. If you rent a dedicated server with (let's say) 16GB of RAM with 8 cores you could split that into various windows virtual machines with virtualbox. Imagine having 10 windows machines at your disposal running 24/7. There are some offers under 100 dollars for this kind of setup, a little more if you buy one IP for each virtual machine.
     
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    cody41 Power Member

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    Might just be easier to get your own box placed into a colo and manage it from there. I've got several dell R810's in a colo to handle some of my more major tasks..and yes, i've got vmware running at times to parcel out images for different environments. To hell with hyper v as well! Couldn't pay me to run that
     
  15. bfly1

    bfly1 Registered Member

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    Yea, I have 1 box in a colo now and my 2nd one will be coming online tomorrow. I am still running my stuff the same way though.

    Both of my servers are pretty powerful.

    Both have dual Xeon l5520 CPU and 72gb ram and hardware raid. 1 has 8 tb in a raid 10 the other 4tb. I use both servers to host my web sites also.
     
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    Virtualbox, VMware Player?
    Jebus! Man I don't think I could think of a more inefficient way to do this.

    There is FREE software that does this for you 100000% better and is probably easier to set up.

    Basically every dedi provider should be able to provide Vmware ESXi, Xen server, Proxmox or even KVM if you know your way round the command line.

    And instead of running a 32bit version of XP, you can signup for a technet account and get a legit license for Server 2008/2012 and provide that to the datacenter, and they will set you up a legitimate Windows account where you can make multiple accounts, each with a separate desktop.
     
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    bfly1 Registered Member

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    The primary purpose of my server is not to run windows, it hosts a large database for my site and I don't want to run a Linux install through Vmware