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rjhere of BlogSlammer is a scammer and liar

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  1. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    The BHW member rjhere who sells BlogSlammer (BS) in the BST forum is a scammer and liar.

    The sales thread is here : http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...logging-tools-blogfarming-videos-50-00-a.html
    I already had an argument with rjhere by email some months ago.

    I waited for months before doing this. Giving it time and see if anything would change for the better. It didn't.



    I am asking for the BST thread of BlogSlammer to be closed because :
    1. buyers of the full version are not getting the full version of BS (also named "owning it" and "self-hosted" by rjhere) that they payed for.
    2. buyers of the full version were forced to buy Windows hosting at GoDaddy (see post #6 of the BS BST thread)
    3. Some buyers paid $40 installation costs, because asking for installation support afterwards would cost them $100. I was one of those while I had several Windows VPS servers where I could easily squeeze in BlogSlammer.
    4. The BS Support forums at http://www.blogslammerforums.com/ are a huge spam target.
    5. rjhere never shows up in the BS support forums anymore. He doesn't remove the spam posts. He doesn't secure the forum against spamming. In short the support forum is a farce.
    6. The system was undocumented for more than 4 months. In an April Webinar recording bundled with both versions of BS, rjhere promised pdf documentation. He was asked about it in May in the BST thread, he delivered the pdf in August. In those 4 months when the system was undocumented, he asked money for webinars.
    7. Response to support emails (for me) was a always a "I beg of you please answer" excercise and I gave up months ago with asking. Instead of waiting I started fixing stuff myself. Which was never my intention, that's why I paid for software.
    I'm also demanding a full autonomous version of BlogSlammer to be delivered by rjhere to all buyers of the so called full version, which I and others paid $147 extra for.
    Autonomous but with piracy protection welcomed, scramble the code, call home, whatever it takes, but make it the full version that you deliver. A version which does not depend on any other server for the main logic to work.
    And keep it movable as you say that it already is.


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    In short he has 2 versions of the product.
    An ad-supported version for $50, and a full version (owning it) for $197.
    The full version also has a $40 installation fee if you want it installed by rjhere.

    Problem is that rjhere was not so thruthful when he said "full version (owning it)".
    He recently (unintentionally) admitted in his sales thread that the main logic is still on his server. So we the full version buyers bought a bunch of function calls for an extra $147.
    Effectively we have a bunch of function calls instead of injected ads.
    When rjhere's server goes down (which happened once) every BlogSlammer installation on the planet is dead. Ad-supported AND full versions. rjhere can also switch off anyone, anytime.
    Possibly he can also spy on your niches, or worse copy your RSS feeds.

    When confronted with it, he now claims that this is his way of piracy protection. He claims that keeping the main logic on his server is the same as phone home protection of his scripts.
    Sure Rob.
    He overused the "family issues" excuse as a reason several times when confronted with lack of replying to email messages, bugs, lack of updates, ignoring the Bloglammer Support forum, not securing the BlogSlammer Support forum from spammers, and ignoring customer queries.

    The first wave of real public complaints and concerns starts from approximately post #510 in the BS sales thread.

    In post #665 of the BS sales thread I give him the ultimatum to deliver a true full version of BS or be taken to the shitlist.
    Of course the old excuse of family issues was used at first (like in an email from June, and in the thread). Although this time in more detail.
    But those family issues did not make him a better man, because he chose to lie about what he was selling to us as a full "version (owning it)".

    On top of that, 2 Windows programs which are part of the so called full version have never received an update : SiteSlammer and BlogSlammer DeskTop. And these programs are buggy.

    Here are some examples of the shit he pulled on us :


    Glossary
    Blogslammer Server = rjhere's server where the main logic for the ad-supported Blogslammer package is hosted.
    BlogSlammer ad-supported = entry version of the BlogSlammer package where advertisements are inserted in the RSS content stream by the BlogSlammer Server
    BlogSlammer The Traffic System (current name of full version) = self-hosted full version of the BlogSlammer package. No advertisements.
    BlogSlammer Server Edition (previous name of full version) = self-hosted full version of the BlogSlammer package. No advertisements.
    BlogSlammer! Pro (previous name of full version) = self-hosted full version of the BlogSlammer package. No advertisements.
    The full version of BlogSlammer consists of :
    BlogSlammer Server X + BlogSlammer WP plugin + BlogSlammer Desktop + SiteSlammer + BlogSlammer University Video (March) + BlogSlammer University Video (April) + BlogSlammer University Video (June) + BlogSlammer Traffic System Guide + WordPress MU 2.6 + WordPress 2.6 Single User With FeedWordpress
    BlogSlammer Desktop was later removed.
    BlogSlammer Server X = self-hosted suite of ASP.NET scripts and Windows server DLL's making up the main server logic of the BlogSlammer suite.
    Regenerated RSS feeds for blog posts and comments are pulled from this server package by a mix of WP and WPMU blogs.
    BlogSlammer WP plugin = triggers an RSS pull from Server X, then creates the blog posts and comments, and backlinks to the posts.
    BlogSlammer Desktop is a Windows app mainly used to create backlinks on other blogs.
    SiteSlammer is a Windows app mainly used to

    Scams

    Scam A.
    BlogSlammer Server Edition must be installed at GoDaddy's (page 1, post #6).
    Although I had a fully managed VPS with Windows Server 2k3 available, I and so many other buyers, bought the GoDaddy shared hosting package.
    Recently rjhere posted in the thread what should be done to host it elsewhere :
    This is so infuriating. If I was told these simplistic requirements when I asked rjhere why it had to be GoDaddy, I could have emnailed them to the admins and have them do the installation.

    Scam B.
    BlogSlammer Server X part of the full BlogSlammer vertsion as sold for $197 (+ $40 installation).
    It is a self-hosted suite of ASP.NET scripts and Windows server DLL's making up the main server logic of the BlogSlammer suite.
    Regenerated RSS feeds for blog posts and comments are pulled from this server package by a mix of WP and WPMU blogs with the BlogSlammer plugin.
    rjhere promotes/sells this with terms as self-hosted version of the server, full version, the entire system (owning it), etc
    Recently rjhere admitted, in his own sales thread (page 17, post #647), that this is not the full version.
    He stated that the main logic is at his server.
    Scam C.
    Written documentation in PDF format was promised several times in the blurry Webinar videos, but was non-existent until August 10th (page 12, post #456).
    sograj asked rjhere about this on May 23rd (page 1, post #39 and #40).
    The scam : Meanwhile training in the form of online live training and webinars was announced several times : at cost.

    Scam D.
    Support forums delayed several times. When finally up is hacked after 3 days or so. Re-opened the forum is spammed almost immediately (pharmacy, sex, etc) on a daily basis and never cleaned up, nor is security tightened. And the support forum is barely visited by rjhere. When he visits he ignores questions addressed at him by his clients, but makes a post in that same thread (with the question) like "just testing" or similar.
    Most of these questions are still open.

    Scam E.
    Email support is a joke.
    Support questions by email are ignored for upto 2 weeks, or never answered.
    And there are always family issues, travels, and What Have You excuses, for months.
    The following quote is a PM message I received on June 7th, to my pre-sales questions in the sales thread. It says enough for anyone still contemplating buying the lower priced ad-supported version of BlogSlammer :
    Scam F.
    rjhere admitting that there are bugs in his software, but not fixing them. Unless he is paid, of course.
    SiteSlammer is part of the full version of Blogslammer Server Edition.
    From this thread, titled "Looking for a buyer for my SITESLAMMER product/division" :
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ng-buyer-my-siteslammer-product-division.html
    Quoting rjhere, again from post #4 where he promises to a potential buyer to fix all bugs the buyers users find, and put it into both versions (his version also). We never received any updates. So he either didn't sell it, or never bothered sending us any updates. It also indicates that he is only prepared to work on this part of the Blogslammer suite when he gets payed for it.
     
  2. Reelnetwork

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    Let's see what will happen to him now.
     
  3. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    Indeed, let's see what happens.

    A screenshot of the PM I received to my pre-sales questions.
    I read "entire system" and "owning it".
    That is not what I have now.

    I'm not against remote-hosted scripts at all. I use several of those.
    Remote hosted has advantages.

    I don't like being scammed.


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    A screenshot of the most recent PM I received from rjhere.
    The pot calling the kettle black ?
    Or just a madman in panick ?

    [​IMG]
     
  4. Reelnetwork

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    Oh, So apart from being a scammer and liar, he is abusive too? Some action should be seriously taken.
     
  5. sograj

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    Let see what happens although I am not impressed with g-Vector s behaviour either posting a private message on a public forum is not the way to go.

    See Here Post # 677

    I'm Seriously Pissed Off with g-Vector
     
  6. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    You are the type who would kiss everybosy's butt, mate. Today rjhere's butt, tomorrow someone else's butt.
     
  7. rjhere

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    You do get the entire system. And you do own it. Just like you would own XRUMOR, etc.. There is no difference between my system and XRUMOR. Both have activation servers in place. Mine is just a little more hack proof.

    You are basically asking for a copy you can NULL. which you PUBLICALLY STATED FOR ALL TO READ.

    I have told you I'd help youout. EVEN AFTER youTHREATEN TO NULL OUT MY SOFTWARE PUBLICALLY.

    EVEN AFTER THIS I WAS KIND AND EVEN CALLED HIM "BUDDY" WHICH HE TOOK OFFENSE - Review last two pages of autoblogging on crack. He actually made a post to stop calling him "buddy".

    I am pissed at him. His threat to null my software should have gotten him deactivated and banned from the system. BUT he isn't. His threat for NULLING my software should have gotten him no support BUT IT DIDN'T.

    I have said many times to EMAIL ME AT blogslammer (@) gmail.com so I can help him move his app off of GoDaddy.

    I recommend GoDaddy cause it's easy to install there. I don't help with hosting server issues so if you have a host that is an unknown, I will only put 15 minutes of total work to install. If this work is taken by dealing with hosting issues, then the install will not happen.

    But with this said I did put my hand out to him and said I will help him. PLEASE CAREFULLY READ THE LAST TWO PAGES OF THE THREAD.

    Yes, I became abusive. That is after all of his abuse. I am REACTING. Many would have told him to go FUCK HIMSELF after his threat to NULL my software. BUT I DIDN'T.

    IT's public record. And ADMINS that can view inboxes please look at mine. See he has never pm'ed me there. See that I was NICE to him after his threat to illegally null my software.

    The problem is this is public record. It's a slam dunk case on my side. Yes I told him to go fuck himself. Many would have done this MUCH SOONER than I did.

    WITH ALL OF THIS SAID AND WITH ALL OF HIS ABUSE, I AM STILL PUTTING OUT MY HAND TO HELP HIM MOVE SERVERX. I TOLD HIM TO JUST EMAIL ME WHICH HE HAS NOT DONE.

    Before posting on this thread, please read the last two pages of the autoblogging on crack thread. Don't post until you see this public record.

    So, as far as making a NULLABLE copy for you, forget it. That is a stupid thing to ask of me. Well, if you can convince Alex at XRumor to do this, then I will do this as well. (My guess he'll tell you go to pound sand).

    Anyways, that being said, you are still activated. You still can contact me for support via email and not hijack posts in sales threads.

    If I fail to deliver the support via email then you'd have a case.

    Anyways, I am not a scammer. People are making money. And I never promised anything on any sales page here that I DID NOT DELIVER. THAT IS A FACT. Well the co-op is taking a long time but there are logistical issues with this. I will probably just re-launch old co-op.

    When you pay $50.00 to by my plugin/hacks/videos, you get my plugin/hacks/videos. Plain and simple. Anyone that has paid and not gotten the product come forward please. That I will take care of quickly.

    To prove I am a scammer, quote me sales page on the BST thread and tell me where I have lied or scammed.

    I have made many AFTER-SALES statements to you guys. These are intentions of doing things that I never advertised in any sales letter. And if things come up where I can't go above and beyond to do these things, I ask you do not piss on me.

    My system works. And works nicely. People have publically posted how powerful it is. And for $50.00 entry fee, you can't beat it. Autoblogged costs this for just one blog. and does 1 tenth my plugin does.

    Any Admins/Mods/Exec VIPs care to review my product to end this once and for all?

    And you G-Vector, I am begging you to accept my help and support instead of refusing to ask for it. Your request for a nullable version is denied. It is a stupid request to make especially on this forum where shit is shared freely.

    So let's end this as I stated AFTER YOU PUBLIC THREATENED TO NULL MY SOFTWARE and let me help you get it going. Your call.. You have the entire system and you own it just as you have and own XRumor and any other software tool on this site.

    Thanks

    Rob
     
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  8. rjhere

    rjhere BANNED BANNED

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    And point your abuse to me and not others. He was one my harshest critics and once I have told you all the secret to getting support (via email and not BST posts), he is getting it.

    He's not kissing my ass. You are showing your true colors here. Please stop your futile tantrum and let's just move on and make some money.
     
  9. g-Vector

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    I do not own the main logic, like you said : "the entire system (owning it).
    You can go kiss your own butt, until you deliver the main BlogSlammer logic as sold to me.
    Stop kissing my butt. I'm not picking you up on your promises for a third time.

    You showed your true colours for months in a row. Are you the new rjhere, when will you change personality again ?
    The ticker is counting. You've got a nerve to say something about my language, look at the language of your last PM.
     
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  10. rjhere

    rjhere BANNED BANNED

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    Not a scammer buddy. My system works. and My "abuse" started much later than it would have with most people. You can only get kicked so many times before you hit back.
     
  11. g-Vector

    g-Vector Regular Member

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    Are you trying to manoeuvre yourself into the position of victim?
    EDIT: You scammer. Where is the main logic I paid for?
     
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  12. rjhere

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    No.. I'm not. I have been telling you to bury the hatchet and let me help you.. EVEN AFTER you publically threatened to NULL my software.

    [​IMG]

    I sent this to you after your threat (read date/time). Software developers don't take kindly to these king of threats. And my point is why are you so upset when you have taken no action to contact me through direct channels? I just want to end this here and now.

    Asking for a copy that can be nulled is crazy. I know you are are smart enough to know this.

    Please, just let me help you. I will be first to admit I fell off the face of the planet. I am trying to make ammends with this. Blueprint support is not included with my software but I give it anyways when I can.

    Let's just end this now. Realize that activation servers are the cost of doing business. If you can guarantee me that no one would freely distribute my software then we can talk. But until then, I have to do what I have to do to protect my property and yes to protect your investment.

    What do you say. Let's just end this now. I will never deactivate you. I will always give you free updates as I make them. I will still give you support.

    Thanks

    Rob
     
  13. sograj

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    You really are turning out to be a right tosser.
    You don't know me and your comments are totally unfounded.
    Any one who knows me will tell you I do not kiss any ones butt. I tell it exactly as it is, like Rob says I was his biggest critic when most people sat on the fence in silence.
    I have pulled him up several times. I just came to a decision and went with it.
    I had no problem with you now your throwing insults around, publishing private conversations ect it will be interesting to see what the MOds make of your behaviour.
     
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    I have had Rob's system since this time last year.
    I've had no problems with his support as he has always
    answered any questions I had promptly.

    My only issue is I would like to see the co-op and forum
    that was to be part of this implemented.
    Although with all the bad blood here I doubt
    this will be possible.
     
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    Wow! Is the mod looking at this thread?
     
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    Beware, HaRRo will be here very shortly.
     
  17. g-Vector

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    rjhere you keep taking attention off these facts :
    1. You have your BlogSlammer server with the main BlogSlammer logic on it. (Until a few days ago only you knew that the main loogic was only on YOUR server.)
    2. You sell 2 versions of BlogSlammer :
    2a. An ad-supported version for $50 ( advertisements are injected in the RRS feed of each pull from your server). WP-plugin.
    2b. An ad-less full version for $197 + GoDaddy Windows hosting (mandatory at first) + optional $40 installation. WP-plugin, SiteSlammer + BlogSlammer Desktop.

    Recently we learned that both versions depend on the same logic on your BlogSlammmer server. Without it they are both useless.

    The only 2 differences between those 2 versions are that the RSS feed of the lower priced version has advertisements injected by your BlogSlammer Server. And buyers of this version also have to log into YOUR server to setup their RSS pulls interactively, because they do not self-host anything of the server-side of BlogSlammer.

    The problem is that you sell the higher priced ad-less version as a full version, the entire sytem (owning it).

    The higher priced version is exactly the same as the lower priced version. It is not the entire system. We are not owning it. It is not the full version. It lacks the main logic.

    Buyers of the higher priced ad-less verson, are only self-hosting the interactive portion of the BlogSlammer server-side on our servers, and a bunch of function calls to the main logic on your server.

    So every buyer of the higher priced version is in fact taking the interactive load off of YOUR server, because all interactivity is taking place on their own server.
    The bunch of remote function calls is to the same main logic on your server, and only to bypass ad injections by YOUR server.
    And these buyers are paying $147 extra for this as well.

    By adding just the interactive portion of the BlogSlammer server-side, and skipping ad injections by your server, does not allow you to sell it as the entire system (owning it).
    It makes you a scammer, you swindled by deception, you defrauded, and betrayed peoples confidence in what you said you were selling.

    $147 extra, to use a couple of interactive screens (named the entire system) on my own server, and to take some of the load off of YOUR server. What a scam.
     
  18. litenup

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    Scam: a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, esp. for making a quick profit; swindle.

    I'd like to address a few of the so called 'scam' issues

    Scam - Godaddy
    Why is this a scam? I never noticed any fine print and you don't have to sign up through an affiliate link. You can choose to do this or not.

    Scam - The program is still based on his server
    He wants his script to callback to protect his investment. As long as you have full use of the product whats the problem? This is BHW. He is dealing with a bunch of blackhats after all.
    Maybe if he was siphoning off information about what you are doing to copy it or... that would be scammy. But nothings been said about that.

    And the server load? Do you want to sell a product and then let people have unlimited use of your server to use it?

    Scam - Support / documentation
    Well you got me there. He definitely has to improve on this if he wants people to keep using/buying his product and recommend it.
    But this is not a real scam... its just real for bad business in the long run.
    He may be good with software development and lousy with the day to day running of a business, hopefully he will find someone to handle this for him.

    Scam - Bugs in program
    Jesus H. Chri**! If you can name any software that has been produced in the last 10 years that hasn't had any bugs...
    And the link you posted is about him having to get paid for fixing bugs is actually about him wanting to find an investor, and or, sell his product. So I find that very confusing.

    Scam - higher priced vs lower priced version
    At least from my understanding, you do get more in the higher priced version. One can utilize the ad-supported version and if they are happy with the results get the ad less version. Again, I really don't understand the 'scam' here.

    Look, obviously you are po'd and spent a long time putting this post together. You do have a few good points but nothing I would call a scam - ewhoring is a scam, see the definition at the start of this post.

    He has offered his terms to address your concerns.
    Settle

    I am not a personal friend of his but have purchased blogslammer, and found it to be very confusing at first. The documentation was poor, especially to a newb like I was at the time.
    I have found him to be reasonable and honest, and he has gone a little bit out of his way to keep this customer happy.

    I have no axe to grind either way.
    Wish you both well and hope you find a way
     
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  19. rjhere

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    True colors? I just showed that I have been busy with life. Was trying to line up a partner to help you guys.. that fell through.

    You do own the system.. the only reason you want the logic is so you can ILLEGALLY NULL IT as you have publically posted in that thread. If I gave you the ability to NULL it you wouldn't be complaining.

    Being nice is not kissing your ass.

    I haven't been nothing but nice to you and everyone. YOU ARE THE ONE THAT CALLED ME A FUCKEN LIAR before I ever said anything negative to you.

    It's all public record on the last two pages of autoblogging on crack.

    You don't realize just how fucken stupid you are making yourself look.

    HaRRo Please come and send this guy back to DP where he belongs.

    I am done with this thread. and with his UNREASONABLE request to provide him a NULLABLE system.. The bottom line is he and everyone else on this forum knows I have extended my hand out to him MANY times from the minute after he threatened to NULL my software to now. It's public record.

    I won't post back here unless a MOD requests it. Mods/admins, please PM me if you need me to respond or post here.

    I'm through with this guy. Now I'm getting back to supporting my customers and getting ready for the FREE webinar I am giving this Saturday.

    Thanks


    Rob
     
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    YEs He is liar, I never have any software or useful material from him and he refused to refund .. DOnt use the BLog slammer stuff.. all shit
     
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