1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

rich loser something or other

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by BuzzKill, Jan 11, 2008.

  1. BuzzKill

    BuzzKill Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2007
    Messages:
    508
    Likes Received:
    173
    Occupation:
    Entrepreneur
    Location:
    Milwaukee WI
    I am searching for the thread on that rich loser program that people were discussing earlier. Did anything ever come of that or did it fade away? I thought it was the next big thing..
     
  2. gts6

    gts6 Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2007
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    348
    its still around.. i am trying it out. so far no problems. i paid, got my domains as per the deal, and now i need to build the sites. they provided everything promised so far. the system they have in place seems to be pretty good and stable, so far i am happy. now its just a matter of IF the traffic comes in and the rankings are good enough to turn a profit. i see no reason for it not too, though. ill have a better idea in a few weeks though. one thing i didnt like is to have to pay for 3 months up front, i wouldve liked to be able to start with one month just to try it out, and then pay quarterly. so it was a little costly for something with an "unknown" factor about it, but i look at it as a "cost of doing business".
     
  3. milligan

    milligan Junior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2007
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    63
    So to get up and running it will set you back at least $1000 (as mydomain is offering $0.99 info doamins). As gts6 says it is a big investment for something with an unknown factor and no money back and no saleable asset as such.

    I almost pulled the trigger but stalled when I worked out my upfront cost. Then again if we always follow others and not take the risk and lead the way ourselves we might find ourselves left behind feeding on the scraps of the pioneers.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  4. gts6

    gts6 Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2007
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    348
    actually it comes out less than 1000.

    675 up front to be exact.

    that includes the 125 domains for BHW.
    so i made 125 domains, and will just make 2 or 3 at most subdomains for each to
    bring me to the 400 sites. that will save some $$ by doing it this way
     
  5. BuzzKill

    BuzzKill Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2007
    Messages:
    508
    Likes Received:
    173
    Occupation:
    Entrepreneur
    Location:
    Milwaukee WI
    Hmm.. so tempting. I really need to find something like this that lived up to its promises.
     
  6. gts6

    gts6 Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2007
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    348
    well, i cant say yet whether it does or doesnt work. but so far it seems legit, and all functionality is there. the system in place DOES do what its supposed to, so now the only question is how good the seo they have in place is to monetize it. i have no reason to doubt anything so far because they came through with everything promised.

    and michel said he earned some $ with 80 sites, so that is also a good sign, i trust his word, so things are looking hopeful.

    i will post results as soon as i know them, but im sure that could take a few weeks. But as of right now, i have no worries or doubts, so i guess im pretty happy.
     
  7. Oakley

    Oakley Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2007
    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    76
    Yeah I signed up also. I agree with what gts6 posted.

    No money made yet as I am finding the niches and keywords but all seems to be on the up and up.
     
  8. Michel

    Michel BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2007
    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    37
    Still making money, every day.
    The reason why I started with 80 sites is because I wanted to see what works best and after that make the rest.

    I don't like the YouTube sites for instance.
    I like sites that make commission besides Adsense.

    Also keyword research is THE most important part!

    The sites are easy to create and the get indexed very fast, so yes it is still very good!
     
  9. john14809

    john14809 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2008
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    77
    hi buzz,

    I think you are referring to thread number 4587 (I can't post threads yet so just giving you the number).

    I personally would not use this because the landing pages look terrible and any google human reviewer would ban your account in a second. Plus so many sites would surely bring about more scrutiny.
     
  10. gts6

    gts6 Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2007
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    348
    to the people who are in it: what do you think of the keyword tool they offer?

    i personally like to use something else, although the one they supply is not bad at all.
    Michel, with the successful sites you did, did you rely on their tool, or use other keyword tools? theirs is ok, but a bit "basic" for my tastes, but it is right there and real easy and quick to use.
     
  11. neol

    neol Junior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2008
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    24
    What are the chances of getting banned by google after following this method ??
    Dont you think they will get suspicious ??
    I am still considering the idea but want second opinions ..
     
  12. wmitchell003

    wmitchell003 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2007
    Messages:
    463
    Likes Received:
    57
    I think it is excellent and the unlimited bandwith, free domains, hosting, and support is worth joining the program alone. If for nothing else it is an easy way to create 400+ websites and you can get create in how you decide to promote them.
     
  13. Emalker

    Emalker Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    59
    Likes Received:
    10
  14. gts6

    gts6 Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2007
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    348
    exactly. even if i dont like the way they promote the sites or generate traffic, i am free to do whatever i please to do it myself. and so far everything else they promised came through.

    as far as earning money goes, they can never control that or promise that the sites will make money. that all depends on the visitors if they feel like clicking on things or not, and that problem will exist whether i use their system or not, no one can predict what the visitors will do. but as far as getting sites up quickly and indexed, i guess they have delivered what they promised, so i guess that is a slight recommendation, but as i said i cant say whether income will be generated. but no one can predict that. you take that risk anytime you set up an adsense site
     
  15. Oakley

    Oakley Regular Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2007
    Messages:
    202
    Likes Received:
    76
    I think the keyword tool is adequate at best to find keywords, but there is little information given to provide a real answer to whether the keyword is good or not.

    It would be great if the tool gave researched info to make an informed decision but it doesn't.
     
  16. gts6

    gts6 Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2007
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    348
    ok, here is a brief follow up..

    i quickly created 2 test sites on friday.. i checked today, and yes, they are indexed already. very quick.

    but even more impressive is, i created 2 more sites just YESTERDAY less then 24 hours ago, even though those sites are not indexed yet, other sites with links to mine are coming up in the rankings when i do a search.

    so there seo is definitely there, too. the only way i can see this failing is if people just refuse to click on anything on any of my sites, ever. otherwise, i dont see how it can fail.(other than every single site getting banned, of course)

    so to the people that are on the fence, i think I also am gonna agree with michel 100%.
    if it fails to make any money, it is of no fault of the richlosernetwork, jjust a case of either me picking a duds for niches, or people refusing to click. and dud niches can always be deleted and replaced.
     
  17. gts6

    gts6 Executive VIP

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2007
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    348
    ok, another follow up..

    one of the sites i created on the 14th, it is now the 17th. one of the sites is ranked #16 on google, a page 2 listing in only a couple of days! the second site from that day is only ranked at #93 it its niche, but its a much more competetive niche.

    i am pretty impressed so far. no money yet, of course, but things are really looking good. can focus on doing really good niche research and less time to spend having to seo tons of sites.
     
  18. Michel

    Michel BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2007
    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    37
    Hi,

    sorry I didn't see this thread anymore, I always click new posts but didn't see this one coming up............ anyway.

    The sites are build very fast, indexing is very very fast. Money generating is like clockwork,,,, You have control over the entire setup of your site.

    Spammy looking websites and a human Google employee will ban it ???????
    I totally disagree with you.
    I see many many sites on the internet that look much worse than these sites do.
    Please explain to me why a site gets banned will you, because this is totally white hat and SEO optimized all in conjunction with the Google rules, so what you are saying isn't true.

    Peter is still getting the templates made and I adviced between 500-1,000
    We will see a major update next week and in the weeks to come we can use more and more templates.

    Keyword research: What I did for the first 80 sites was this. I just used their tool and you get enough keywords to use, but also the more competitive ones.
    For my next 1,100 sites I will use my own keyword tool and go after the less competetive ones. As with any site on the internet, keywords are THE most important part. After that it is all set and forget.

    Great to see you like it gts6, I like it also and going to expand. I always like set and forget money lol.
     
  19. gards67

    gards67 Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2007
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    UK
    Home Page:
    I'm a newbie newbie, if there is such a thing but I opted for this after reading the various comments...I've got about 55 sites up and just used their keyword tool - they've been up for about a week and I've got $7.01 from adsense.

    OK - it's not much at all...but it's something, I've lots more sites to build (that's boring) and I have hardly done any keyword research, so give it a bit of time and hopefully I'll also have a better idea of what I should be doing, there's certainly potential.

    I suppose the downside was the upfront payment which I won't make back in 3 months but who knows and like I said I am a total novice.
     
  20. Michel

    Michel BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2007
    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    37
    Hmmm,

    ok what scripts are you using for making the sites?
    YouTube, Sharesale, eBay, Flickr etc.?

    There is a big difference, money wise, between them all.