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Reverse Engineering A Successful BlackHat Site 302 Redirect Question

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by coxi999, Jul 4, 2013.

  1. coxi999

    coxi999 Junior Member

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    So I have been looking at 1 particular blackhat site that is ranking very high for some huge keywords (I WILL NOT NAME THIS SITE IN THE THREAD SO DON'T ASK) I have been compiling data to do with the way this site gets and maintains its rankings. It is clear that the site uses a lot of 302 redirects from sub domains to its money site and it is the sub domain that rank for the competitive keywords.

    I still have have a few pieces of the jigsaw to put in place before conducting my own tests on this method and one thing I cant seem to work out is how each 302'd sub domain has a relevant meta description, which obviously will help a lot with its rankings. From checking archive.org I can see the sub domain has never had any content on it, it was just 302'd from registration so the description is not still hanging on from that.

    Is there some kind of script that can give these type of redirected full meta data to help them rank? Or if I add a index page to each of the sub domains after the redirect would the data still show in the serps even though the page is redirected?

    If anyone is looking at similar sites and would like to compare thoughts please add me on Skype

    Any help would be greatly appreciated to help me complete my jigsaw ;)

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    Could it be something to do with the robots.txt? Thats all I could think of.
     
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    he could have built an index page with keyword relevant content and meta tags, got it indexed and only then made the 302
     
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    Let google spiders scan the page then redirect it?
     
  5. coxi999

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    Yes that was what I thought might be the case but archive.org only shows the redirect no record of real content on the sub domain, I know its possible that it had content before archive.org seen the site but the other thing is that the meta data looks auto generated. You would think if was made by hand they would do a good job so they could convert better over the probable short-life of the site..

     
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    Archive.org does not crawl websites that often ... It may have discovered the subdomain only after the 302 redirect ... Try with command on google site:subdomain.domain.tld and check if there are any copies of the subdomains in the cache
     
  7. coxi999

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    Yea thanks for that, you forget the simple things when your are racking your brain trying to think of something more complex. But unfortunately not one of the sub domains has a cache in Google or the main domain :( Are there any other ways of seeing a previous version of a website/page?
     
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    I had a good reply to this thread but the moderation kicked in? Oh well! (This will make me go back to A4U forum) !!!
     
  9. coxi999

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    PM me or add me on skype
     
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    Expertpeon Elite Member

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    Are they 302 redirected or 301 redirected? The latter is a strategy as old as time (if you don't mind ranking for only a week or two)
     
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    Yea definitely 302 redirected just cant't understand where its pulling its meta data from, if there was a html page on that sub domain with meta data would Google still show it even though the page was redirected to another, I know if you 301 a page it shows the meta from the page its redirected to, just not sure about 302's..
     
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    he's simply using a cloaking script to show the data to you, while blocks the data from Google, webarchive etc.
    This is the reason why there isn't any data when check the cache version of the sub domains or with webarchive.
     
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    Hey thanks for the input mrblackjack, i thought this was maybe the case so I ran the main site and the sub domains through cloaking checkers and they said they were not cloaked, or are there some cloaking scripts that also hide that?