Just curious to what you guys think about the long-term success rate of blackhatting with regards to SEO. I guess when I think of blackhatting, I mean using software like SB, SEnuke, Xrumer, AMR etc, basically anything that automates link-building. Assuming you don't go too crazy with these tools, avoid things like cloaking, other shady tactics etc., for the most part wouldn't you say the effects are rather permanent/stable? I ask this because I read stuff in forums like Warrior Forum etc. and its like White-Hat mania there. LOL. Oh I'm also referring to results regarding low/med competition keywords, I don't really go after super-competitive keywords (maybe I should start?). Just curious to your thoughts from my fellow blackhatters. Thanks in advance.