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Requirements for Long-Term income with adsense and affiliates.

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by l0cke, Dec 30, 2008.

  1. l0cke

    l0cke Regular Member

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    Okay, so I've contributed my 2 cents quite often to the community (in my persecptive, heck, I'm a newbie on the board)..


    Part One:

    So, first let's try getting some perspective.

    We'll use FreeMind to do this. I know alot of you neurotic home office marketers, like me or other business professionals use a whiteboard. This will be your digital whiteboard and will allow you to save your mapping and lists or make a flowchart.

    Some of you are also coders who've written out elaborate flow-charts for object oriented programs. I would like you coders to also try mapping out your ideas in FreeMind giving special emphasis to business models, plans and goals.

    Freemind Download:

    Code:
    http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Download
    I want you other folks to try to step into the coders shoes for a short time too and reason a bit and understand how this skill may help you: Planning out your ideas step by step, unable to get from one goal or function of your plan until you complete the first one, in a manner that when planning in this manner you'll be oriented to completing "project stages". I assume that you can understand from context what I am talking about when you read the word stage. You want to map out each stage that will enable you to move onto the next and the end isn't the completion of the project but a repeating cycle that you'll use to maintain your project's viability, maintaining it so that you don't have your quick blogger five dollars over two days and putter out. Any skills you've gained already in blog content writing can be used toward a money-making, professional site. The word professional is used here because selling any particular thing is considered a profession. You're a salesman.

    Part Two: Now that you have a mapped out project.

    Realizing that you will have to put more than effort into your project. If you're 17, have no money and not time for this, leave the site and be resigned that you won't be making any supplemental income without doing odd jobs or reselling or douchebag conning people in wire fraud which will probably end you up in jail.

    Set aside some money as you ramp up planning and mapping out your objectives and requirements for your project. Don't bother to attempt anything but experiments with less than one hundred dollars to spend. Some of your present of future experiments might cost you that much each. If you're not willing to spend one hundred dollars and fail and be able to recover some of it and start over, again, leave the site. If you do fail, you'll have gained experiences and working knowledge of site development and design, site deploying, site SEO, site maintanence and maybe take away some information on your demographics you used beyond the skills you gained doing it.

    I know I've seen from time to time proposals of mass trial and error ideas and yes, there is always a good chance of failure with any marketing solution but this isn't the way to go about marketing successfully. Any retard, even one not in their mind can start twenty projects to gauge their potential.

    However, I've seen other, more sensible posters propose that while you probably will have initial traffic you'll be spending a few months minimum to ramp up your site. This is true. I choose to work on 10 projects at once instead of "acting now" on one project investing all my time, effort and losing my patience with it. I started 5 projects recently and am ramping them up, filling them out little by little, sometimes more, sometimes less because I'm not an automaton. I have relaxation, exercise, focusing on my fiancee and friendships to be concerned with so I'm not going to spend 3 months locked in my apartment writing for Associated Content while focusing almost solely on my IM. Doing what I do a recipe of anti-burnout, increasing my likelihood for sucess because I'm not going to quit because I'm exhausted and have negative feelings about my work or "get tired of my projects". I prefer to dynamically choose what I'm working on with no criteria but want. Thinking an idea will be a success is a factor of my wants, but it's not that I want it to work, I have a good feeling that my most wanted projects will. Don't get discouraged because you're not getting a ton of traffic or adsense income or affiliate conversions in two weeks. Get discouraged only if you're living at home with mommy and daddy or have no money to start with. While you can probably build up enough money copywriting or with small niche blog projects to work on five projects, investing a few hundred dollars, don't expect it overnight, buds.

    Part Three:

    Professionalism, Am I professional? My site looks good.

    I don't care if your site looks good, professionally designed or not. If you have a half-finished site with under construction sites and your sales or content sections work, it doesn't matter unless you have a good project basis. If you think you're going to make acai berry sales for more than at most two months and make that income for years or the rest of your life, again, you're 17 years old or a retard. That's one incentive to work on multiple projects, especially if you're the type to game up trends, but if you are you already are alerted to the fact that they're short-lived.

    You must have something to offer, it must be professional and presented well if not professionally. If you think I'm going to follow your link from your BHW sig, which I did, and buy something on your shitty 2 dollar host site which offers me nothing but your reviews and opinions and public information and reveals nothing until I buy your crap, you're dead wrong and should quit while you're ahead and use your two dollar host for something useful. Maybe you'll be able to sell your "uberblackhatguide.com" site to someone for a turnover or at least a 10% return of your ten dollars. Give people useful information, lots of content or lots of useful content to get them to come back. If you give me cookie stuffing techniques you might end up on a forum and get adsense traffic but not sell your other stuff or maybe an expose reporter will buy it to report on it. Don't use the word "premium" when referring to content or items you're selling. It's a dead giveaway your feeding me shit with your site and it's not worth it unless I pay and might not be worth it anyway if that's your marketing method. If I get nothing useful from your site, even if it's a part of your site that can be used a ton, prompting people to surf and stay, it's useless to keep my attention for more than 5 minutes. If you have a 20 minute display or tutorial video of applications of your crappy script or items, I'll fast forward through it and hate your for wasting my time then and shortly after I leave.

    Some site ideas that are novel and work:

    1) Services: It doesn't have to be special or huge, though unique helps. If you can get a bot up to scan shopping sites every .5 seconds for a hot product, hit up forums that are huge and relevant and post your service manually you may do some business. 8% after amazon ramps up on affiliate sales from new game systems and your site posted on gamespot, gamefaqs and other gaming sites will work.

    Your service can take advantage of a site's popularity instead of niche popularity and you will gain.

    I learned today to always explain to your affiliate what you're planning to do, in a very clear manner in writing and freemind would help you do that too. Why? Because if you're planning on making a substantial sum of income (over one hundred dollars) you don't want to lose it, getting banned, getting your account reset or canceled is a bad thing. Get approval from at least a manager at the affiliate program before you begin. If you're using blackhat methodologies you may want to do it anyway to cover your ass if you managed to cloak-replace your referrer, give them a well designed crap site with some traffic intersparsed in there.

    2) Products: Youre cheap 1.99 myacaiberrydietsolution.info..
    Your site name is good and tailed, but you're not choosing a keyword for your site, you're choosing a site-name. Fark.com and amazon weren't picked because they related to a product or keyword. You'd be stupid to assume some of the most successful sites aren't setting an example.
    Emulation of professional manner, even in this, simply put, works. If you're going to sell one thing, spin off from this idea: make it an informaiton site and focus on the user and providing them with everything they could learn about your items, giving them a service, helping them in any way you can and sell more than one niche or type of item. If you're going to do acai, do other diet products and books too, refer to amazon, not clickbank. CB is something idiots will fall for or 'net newbies, but the seasoned 'net surfer will recognize the name and authority of amazon. CJ would be good for diet products. Be authoritative and your site must not only appear professionally designed but professionally oriented with big named. Many many people still don't recognize the term affiliate marketing, which is to your advantage.

    4) Focus on providing something, whether a search, free content, free information, free chat, free games for free if you're going to focus on AdSense or AdBrite monetization. You might get somewhere with an _important_ and popular blog topic spread but you won't get #1 with just something popular.

    If you're going to make a service pay-to-use, get 50,000 users before you pop it on them or beta test the idea out so you don't waste your time if the users won't pay. Don't poll them, observe and do it. If you can't observe a userbase and know if they're going to pay for the services of your site, again, you're a child or a retard.

    For instance, if I put up some information such as the largest repository of historical documents gathered from around the internet or ordered, I'll have a good chance in staying at the same traffic level and in business in the long-term. It's something many people will want and I can probably affiliate market replica documents and earn okay income from adsense. Think trends that have been going on for a long time. Poetic is seeing a trend that's been common in the world for a very very very long time, like antiques or coin collecting bring you a ton of traffic.

    To close, I'll compress a alot of what I was saying into one sentence: Provide the best quality you can, offer something that others haven't or offer something that's been popular for a very very long time or get out of the game of long-term income.

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  2. tjpasha

    tjpasha Registered Member

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    thanks for the share mate ......
    huge post will take time to read ...... ;)
    regards
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  3. l0cke

    l0cke Regular Member

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    Thanks for the support, friend. ^^ I'm fairly verbose in all my communications and posts that aren't comments, it comes from being a copywriter by nature, hehe.
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    fafala77 Registered Member

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    I think that you laid down a very nice outline. I'll try to implement as soon as I am done with my current project.
     
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    hai nice share friend
     
  6. l0cke

    l0cke Regular Member

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    :) That little tool, Freemind, has redefined my means of "Heading back to the drawing board" lately and is one of the most popular pieces of software on sourceforge.

    GL with your endeavours folks and I wish you much success in perfecting your methods and in what you do and aspire to do.
     
  7. plut0

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    Nice share.. good white hat idea.
    blackhat sometime means out of the box and hardcore :)