Remove 52% of all Freebies/Giveaways as they break the rules

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My free indexation giveaway was closed, as it doesn't adhere to one of the Freebies/Giveaway subforum rules:
5. [...] At NO POINT are you allowed to direct any member to a website, instant messenger address, email address, form or signature.

I'd like to see some clarification or adjustments to this rule.

By itself, it would get rid of 52% of all open threads posted just this year, as they all violate that rule.

For when OP is clearly advertising a service, affiliate links etc - of course, disallow it - but not genuine freebies.

PS: I didn't want to report each one as that would fill up the moderation queue by a lot.

My 1000th post on the forum. Wish it was on something more fun than complaining :D

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Wow, I have never seen anyone snitch on so many people in one post.

Haha, well, the majority of giveaway threads are violating the rule.

I'm not asking for all these to be locked or deleted - but for admins to hopefully clarify this rule, or make adjustments as it was written in 2012.
 

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Hi Emil

52% I love your accuracy. I'm guessing that's a guestimate?

We're aware there is an issue here and currently act on them as they are reported but need a better solution.

The 2012 rules remain accurate - again showing consistency https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/warning-rules-before-posting-here.472210/ with our new forum much of the required fields can now be automated and we intend to roll this out ASAP.
 

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Hi Emil

52% I love your accuracy.

We're aware there is an issue here and intend to act on it. - it's on the list.

Hahaha. You know I love data.
Of all the open threads (non-sticky, not locked), there are 370 that are not violating the rules, and 403 in violation.

So to be fair, 52.14% ;)
 

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Well that 52.14% Threads have my post too and yeah fyi,I put the signature today itself and that thread was posted long way back;)

Also if a Jr.Vip wants to post a giveaway and if he has a signature,this limits a lot of people actually to do a giveaway?
 

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The 2012 rules remain accurate - again showing consistency https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/warning-rules-before-posting-here.472210/ with our new forum much of the required fields can now be automated and we intend to roll this out ASAP.

My morning coffee has probably not kicked in - but I can't understand what you mean with above ^.

I'd much rather see the rule stating that whatever website you post;
- Can not contain any ads
- Can not have any contact information
- Can not require signup
- Can not be an affiliate link

You most certainly had your reasons to create this rule in the first place - but it's too broad right now as it catches majority of the threads.

Should you need more threads than just during 2020 let me know.
 

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My morning coffee has probably not kicked in - but I can't understand what you mean with above ^.

I'd much rather see the rule stating that whatever website you post;
- Can not contain any ads
- Can not have any contact information
- Can not require signup
- Can not be an affiliate link

You most certainly had your reasons to create this rule in the first place - but it's too broad right now as it catches majority of the threads.

Should you need more threads than just during 2020 let me know.

Fair enough. Working on my number 5 coffee. ;)

We have forum-wide rules listed here https://www.blackhatworld.com/help/terms/ then each section has a please read if there are rules specific to that section.

The first 1 is covered in section 12 https://www.blackhatworld.com/help/terms/ specifically "No selling, offering your services or WTB (“want to buy”) threads outside of this forum without written Admin permission. Members that ignore this warning will be issued an infraction or banned without notice at the discretion of the admin team."

The next 2 I'm talking about rule 3 listed here

The final one is listed site-wide and as point 4 here https://www.blackhatworld.com/help/terms/
 

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I found one of my threads from your list.

I posted that to the Freebie section, because i didn't know any other place to insert that.
maybe some new group/section would by cool where people can find similar ones.
However, many here sell a variety of backlink stuff and i think many will add that backlink matter to their own paid service. So that is like freebie :D
 

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a really bad move from the BHW staff, they've should honour you instead for making such a big giveaway in the forums
I hope the thread will be open again soon and allows members to take benefit of that giveaway
 
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Make @yakuzaemme mod already :anyway:

@DunderMannen wheres my cookie for busting 2400. in one go
 

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a really bad move from the BHW staff,

It is really not.

Enforcing the rules as they sit are what the staff does. We do the best we can when enforcing the rules and keeping the place clean.

Granted it was a nice giveaway but it was deemed outside the rules by a staff member.
 

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It is really not.

Enforcing the rules as they sit are what the staff does. We do the best we can when enforcing the rules and keeping the place clean.

Granted it was a nice giveaway but it was deemed outside the rules by a staff member.

Spot on.

I hope WS understands this thread is not meant to overrule his decision to lock the thread, but shed some light on what enforcing that rule (as it is today) would do to the entire section.
 

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To summarise: someone's giveaway was closed because it was a contest, and those are against the rules. The OP of said thread then reported @yakuzaemme's thread because their own giveaway thread was closed. Now @yakuzaemme is (essentially) mass reporting many more threads because his giveaway thread was closed.

It's funny how things keep getting redirected to other people. I hope @yakuzaemme understands that this is not meant to state that he is wrong in posting a forum suggestions and feedback thread, but shed some light on how one simple moderator action can result in a full-day of work being taken up dealing with one issue.

I will say that I agree the Freebies/Giveaways rules should be clarified. In fact, this was already being worked on, but is not yet complete due to the many other things that need attending to.

For the meantime, however, the rule still stands. Several of the threads listed in the original post have been deleted, closed, and moved as appropriate, although there are several threads that were mistakenly in the list too that shall remain up.
 

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Great entertainment for my lunch break, looking forward what's going to happen
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