Yes, that's how Google works. Hiding a page from Google while keeping it publicly visible takes a non-trivial effort, and again, for zero benefit.
I take it you've never experienced a negative SEO attack or review bombing?
And I am saying that new protections are coming with BHW 2.0 and Marketplace 2.0, which are already in development.
I used the marketplace for several years before joining BHW, but if that first purchase had required an upfront $50 fee, I would have stuck with one of the many free or per-transaction marketplaces and avoided BHW entirely.
Since the whole premise of your $50 fee is to reduce fraudulent SL threads, all you're really doing is punishing the many for the actions of a few. And for those sellers that make hundreds or thousands a day, $50 per account to soft-ban their competitors is nothing.
https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/93710?hl=en
https://www.anphira.com/business-tools/remove-urls-google-bing-search-results/
Look, no matter, tell me the purpose of being seen on google with your SL?
If you are doing good, there is nothing to be afraid of.
You can't kill competition like that.. nah.
Price could be $35, ok I can't do so much replies with each person.
I got your point. Thanks.
I've no idea what your agenda is here, but I'll answer from my own thoughts;
If Shitlists went live immediately then competitors would be able to get 'friends' to create accounts on here just to open fake Shitlists against competing services.
The marketplace is not hidden, people are able to buy without being a member of BHW. What you are suggesting about charging people $50 a year fee to be able to buy, would deter many buyers. Moving the Marketplace out of public reach would kill off or damage a lot of services too.
BHW is the most secure forum marketplace out there, it's the only one that sellers need to have products/services reviewed prior to being able to sell. Other forums take the $30 or $50 listing fee and click a button to make a sales thread go live. I've seen sellers banned from here who are still active on other forums, kinda says a lot about those places.
This is the only forum where there's a Shitlist facility to help moderate any issues with services. many Shitlists are resolved before the threads are made live. This is usually down to a genuine error by a seller or a missed TAT.
The number of Shitlists would be reduced if members stopped buying from regular members ( ie yellow usernames ). An example of this is a guy who joined this month bought from another guy who joined less than 10 days ago, who sent him a PM offering to sell to him, cheap. It wasn't cheap as he took his money and never delivered.
Hi, let's assume buyer have to pay $35 annually to access the marketplace. ($50 maybe too much)
In my OP and #18 there is all the major info of this thread.
"If Shitlists went live immediately then competitors would be able to get 'friends' to create accounts on here just to open fake Shitlists against competing services. "
This won't be the case, you could ban them so quickly as soon the seller does a 5sec of video or gif to prove he did no business with the buyer.
Buy $35 (let's reduce) status, and get yourself banned (for life let's say) under less than 24 hours, get SL deleted. What is the purpose of attack? I don't see any.
"The marketplace is not hidden, people are able to buy without being a member of BHW. What you are suggesting about charging people $50 a year fee to be able to buy, would deter many buyers. Moving the Marketplace out of public reach would kill off or damage a lot of services too."
This part is the most risky one. Just for a record, everyone would be able to see the marketplace, but only the buyer status would be able to buy it. Could cost as low as $35 actually.
Sellers could still choose to add their Skype or something, so they can operate completely outside of BHW.
So anybody could become able to avoid everything. Not so bad I think.
However, all free members would not be able to send PM if they don't buy Marketace buyer status, which could be renamed into the BHW user status.
"BHW is the most secure forum marketplace out there, it's the only one that sellers need to have products/services reviewed prior to being able to sell. Other forums take the $30 or $50 listing fee and click a button to make a sales thread go live. I've seen sellers banned from here who are still active on other forums, kinda says a lot about those places."
With my method, BHW can only increase this security (reduce the amount of scammed users) + for sure get some payments from the free users.
By the way, completely agree with you.
"This is the only forum where there's a Shitlist facility to help moderate any issues with services. many Shitlists are resolved before the threads are made live. This is usually down to a genuine error by a seller or a missed TAT.
The number of Shitlists would be reduced if members stopped buying from regular members ( ie yellow usernames ). An example of this is a guy who joined this month bought from another guy who joined less than 10 days ago, who sent him a PM offering to sell to him, cheap. It wasn't cheap as he took his money and never delivered."
My system of solving this is described, but here's the highlights.
(I can see enough of Jr Vips in SL)
Make SL public from start or in 24 hours (automatically)
If the buyer is fake, ban buyer, del SL.
If the seller is fake, this helps a lot + you can temp ban BST URL to become an warning image with a link to SL.
Whatever it was, it the buyer made fake SL, it cannot be enough to affect the seller.
The buyer will have to buy $35 worth of status to open SL and lose it under a day or two, within the account.
In additional, the seller should be active always (sat-sun no) so he can respond to SL.
This system would improve everything, but mostly the sellers.
I will have to re-edit this whole thread, and set another one, soon, because there will be a few more things to look at.
In the end, you would be able to use the paid (and the only one) market without paying if the seller has left any contact form. This also cannot be stopped due the same sellers are selling on other platforms.
However, I can assure everybody that some members would buy BHW User status of $35 to use the marketplace, use PM feature, setup SL if need, secure their own money.
There would be a system that works only for them, which is explained in the OP, while SL would be offline for 24-48 hours before going live, since weekend should be off for any seller.
I will mix it better, and you will see how it looks as soon as tomorrow.
