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Recent Algo Change - A Financial Move?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by blackhataffiliate, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. blackhataffiliate

    blackhataffiliate Senior Member

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    Has anyone noticed that these hard hit sites were massive adsense publishers.

    All these site ranked well, but they all have one thing in common. Adsense. Take wisegeek for example. They ranked well with very little content, but the pages were flooded with Adsense ads. Also look at ezinearticles, howtofixthings, faq.org, mahalo, hubpages, suite101. All of these sites were massive Adsense publishers and all with the elusive/coveted premium publisher.

    Also, while I am not a premium publisher I have noticed my earnings drop over the last month.

    Could it be this be a financial move? Could G be trying to increase their revenue, improve their balance sheet or please shareholders? Could G (at least Adsense dept) actually be in financial trouble?

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    http://google-algorithm-ruins-my-business.blogspot.com/
    I am more inclined to think that this move was more about cash flow than cleaning up the searches. Just trying to think outside the box?
     
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  2. neo3187

    neo3187 Senior Member

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    yes I have to agree with you... the way google is going on with the destruction I fail to understand where they are heading... giving those sites premium adsense status would mean that they knew about those sites already... so why hit those sites if they were doing well... what are they upto... I dont think eHow was useless or crappy, it has helped me many times same with wisegeek and sometimes same with ezine too... whats google looking for? Diamond studded content? not everyone can come up with research papers and long research journals to post on their sites.... their changes simply state they just want the really big companies to rank up their.. or who knows they even charge those companies for their organic rankings ....
     
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    thinkinghat Regular Member

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    i just got one question.why wikipedia is not affected as much ? i dont know exact numbers after change,but its stable at its old rankings.
     
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    blackhataffiliate Senior Member

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    Yeah, I have wondered the same. Maybe Wales is in good with G or maybe because they are considered a non-profit (i think)?
     
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    Maruk Power Member

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    Why would Wiki suffer from the latest update? Isn't their stuff all original content?
     
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    neo3187 Senior Member

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    ok lets do one thing.. lets take wiki's content and create countless autoblogs... wiki still wont be affected... thrs a lot more to this whole story which very few people knw
     
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    Actually they seem to have benefited. I think Google is just stirring things up to cripple independent competition which is not available for them to purchase. The old guys that won't sell out to Google go out of business. Then new startups take their place, which Google buys out. Youtube sure didn't take a hit.
     
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    kabella Registered Member

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    I think some sites are Whitelisted
     
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    Maruk Power Member

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    Thing is that Wiki requires you to post unique content on their system. Google knows this and will automatically assume that Wiki is the original source of any duplicated content.
    So I think that's why Wiki won't loose rankings.
     
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    Can't anyone post in wiki, it's more likely the info is copied from books or even your website! I know this for a fact as when I look up very specific DNA processes and Chemical reactions the text is bang on identical to my text books, most of the time with no citations. So it would be unfair to assume wiki is always unique.
     
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    craigslistguy Regular Member

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    Hmmm

    Well let me just say all those sites like ehow, enzine, etc are all CONTENT FARMS which google has previously stated they are doing away with, ever since they got the results from their beta on their new search engine that will be coming out soon...

    Wiki prolly didnt get hit as hard because, since different users go in and post (kinda like a forum) its all "different" and "natural" blah blah and then its the wiki staff that goes in and "edits" it..

    And i can see that some of you are going to say "Wiki is the same thing as ehow, users go in and post content blah blah" and my response to that is

    A different user couldnt go in and post additional information in that person's article...But wiki allows that in all of their articles which is the difference..
     
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    There is also no advertising or adsense on Wiki. That is the main thing I think in G's eyes.
     
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    So much misleading info!!!
     
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    blackhataffiliate Senior Member

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    I think wiki is in a class by itself due to its non profit status and therefore G feels that they are "above" everyone else.

    The thing about the sites that were hit hard were that they were all pushing Adsense really hard. Sites like business.com have ads blended so well it is hard to tell the ads from the content.

    This is why I think this move had to be more of a financial move instead of get rid of "whatever" move. These sites generated massive income from Adsense and I think G must be trying to get rid of the big players for some reason. Maybe Adsense is losing cash. After all, they slapped affiliates so hard that they lost a good bit of Adwords income and in the end they could have bitten themselves in the ass. Maybe they are just trying to please shareholders, etc. Who knows, but this was more than just a get rid of "content farms".
     
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    Not bad conclusion I have seen many low $ clicks on my sites just these few weeks when before most of clicks were .3-.7 on sites now i have got mostly something near .2 only and some low as .03 Well though indeed
     
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    blackhataffiliate Senior Member

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    Same here. I have sites that rank #1 for highly targeted and (used to be) high paying clicks that were generating $100 + per day. Now, these same sites with same average click through rate are earning more in the range of $50 + per day and all within the last 8-10 weeks.
     
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    Hmm I guess that is true, from my own experience though, when I started Wiki pages with duplicated content it would always get redacted and/or removed.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copy-paste
    I don't know, my guess still is that Google will assume that Wiki is the originator in most of the cases.
    It's like a normal citizen vs a law enforcement officer in court. Who is the judge going to believe if it is just the citizen's word against the LEO's?
    Fact of the matter is that nobody can say for sure though.
     
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    Maruk Power Member

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    Thank you for your incredible valuable contribution to the conversation.
    What a remarkable insight you have.
     
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    ramtripper BANNED BANNED

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    hold on.... maybe im horribly mistaken... but doesnt google WANT people to click on ads? No matter where they are?

    Google earns from someone clicking an ad, thats when they take the money from the advertiser, meaning the more people click, the more money they make. It doesn't matter what site it was clicked on, that site will earn the same percentage of the click every time.

    So how are they saving money but lowering the sites that get massive clicks? Wouldn't they want MORE clicks?

    Maybe im mistaken... anyone got an explanation?
     
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    blackhataffiliate Senior Member

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    I may be wrong in my thoughts, but I just find it interesting that all of these sites that got reamed were pushing Adsense really hard and probably some of the biggest players in Adsense.