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Received manual penalty. Any hope to get it back?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by nobody00, Apr 30, 2016.

  1. nobody00

    nobody00 Regular Member

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    The site is about game hacks. I did black hat seo but a long time ago, maybe a year ago so i dont think its the links. Any chance to get it back or it's lost forever? Thanks


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  2. Getwhatchuwant

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    Yes... you have to go the whole disavow route but if you track down the links they discovered and disavow them you can get the penalty removed.

    I have had this happen to 2 separate sites, 1 was Neg SEO and the other was using some services I probably should not have but in the end the manual penalty was removed and rankings can recover if your other remaining links are good enough.
     
  3. wisdomkid

    wisdomkid Elite Member

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    How can you track down the links they discovered? This seems interesting.


    Answer to OP: i have come across several websites which has regain their rankings after been hit by Manual spam action from google.
     
  4. goldenkiid

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    You have to give us more information to figure out the problem. With the info you wrote i can only say that you got the penalty because of that linkbuilding you did. How many links did you build?
     
  5. XxUnivaxX

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    Looks like Big G gave this penalty to many users this month.
    I even received on one of my sites, sent disavow request nothing yet. Lets see what happens in upcoming days.

    Head to ahref and download all data and then disavow those domains which has lot of links pointing.
    That's what I did, If someone has more knowledge please share that.

    Cheers
     
  6. Getwhatchuwant

    Getwhatchuwant Elite Member

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    Simple, you ask them..

    My 1st disavow I send is a recon mission..what did they notice?

    So I send a disavow with a few shitty links and then ask "If you discovered more, please send me examples.."

    Usually they send back a reply within a couple of weeks with 3-4 examples and you can see what they are looking at.

    It took me 3-4 times of doing this but I eventually found some sites with links in the footers, like a sponsored theme with exact match anchors, I did not do or authorize but maybe the client did in the past..

    Finally when I got rid of those the penalty went away just 2 days ago. It will take time to see what this does to SERPS but the neg SEO issue I had happen occurred a year or 2 ago and when the penalty was lifted, the site started ranking on page 1 again for many terms and others on page 2 which were easy to target again.
     
  7. Getwhatchuwant

    Getwhatchuwant Elite Member

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    I didnt look at ahrefs or anything else for that matter, I only looked at what THEY showed me they had.... Like a real business might do that does not know SEO.... If they are not showing you those links then how am I supposed to address them?

    They should not hold me accountable for bad links they are not showing me I have.... and so far, in practice that has been the case.
     
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  8. nobody00

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    Majestic info:

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    The first links i added were made with gsa ser but very few like 300 directly on the site and a few thousand as tier but that was like 3 years ago. Then i tried the link buying method, i bought PBN posts, added a few dozen HQ but expensive, added ~300 LQ, bought a few hundred comments and some guys delivered good links with max 50 OBL, but another retarded added on sites with over 1000 OBL although promising max 50 in his thread. And you cant remove comments, i didn't disavowed them because i saw other sites with more crappy links than mine that were ranking fine and this over 1000 OBL links werent that many, a few dozenz maybe ~20-30, i said i will be fine. Other links i added were SAPE but kept them for 2 or 3 months so they arent there anymore for sure since they are subscription based. Plus a few mixed link services from providers with good reputation. Nothing extreme like 10000 gsa comments. I tried to make it as natural as possible, cared about anchor text, 100% unique articles on my site, i didnt added them all at once, i drip feeded them, "followed the BH rules" in short. As i said, for ~1 year since i last made link building everything was fine, most of the links got deleted by now.

    But what my suspicion is although im not sure its true since its just a suspicion is that in the last 2 or 3 months i hosted my "how to use the hack" videos on dailymotion and they kept deleting either the videos or the accounts. But i kept uploading/making new accounts because for some reason my conversion was bigger when hosting the videos on dm. When i local hosted them i had lower conversion. Other video hosting sites either deleted the videos faster or didn't had all the features i needed like video title or custom thumbnail or the loading speed was crap. And what i discovered is that in the last month no one of my videos/accounts were deleted, they either got tired of deleted them (dont know if they have automatic spam filter system like yt) OR they sent a complaint email to google and since they are a reputable site, i think they are in top 5 video hosting sites, google might actually fu*ked me because of their complaint. Is this even possible or im seeing ghosts here?

    Thanks again for your feedback
     
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  9. johnwild77

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    I don't think you got the action on your site because of the links.

    You got the manual action because of the content. I had 4 game hacks style sites go down within the last 2 weeks. Some had barely any links, and weren't even attached to webmaster tools, but 2 were and I got the same notice you had. It seems google is cracking down on these types of spammy sites.
     
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    If you read the message it says "you need to make significant changes to the content"

    I think it has to do with the content and not actually you're links. I've seen a few other people on this site mention about hacking sites going down.
     
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    Follow google policies, then require them to review your site. Hope it will get back
     
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    If you received a manual penalty, don?t throw in the towel just,because you can recover by submitting a reconsideration request.

    To find out if your website was penalized by a manual action, go to Google Webmaster Tools and check to see if you have any new notifications. Find the cause of your traffic drop.
     
  13. Ambitious12

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    Have you checked on Google well?May be its lost now.
     
  14. starki

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    You are right, the "pure spam" (see OP screenshot ) manual action is 100% onpage, no links involved. If usually hits automatically generated sites created from databases like game hacks, phone numbers/who's calling, lyrics, pseudo business directories, all sorts of scrapers. Fixable by adding loads of really unique OWN content with some value for visitors, but for the type of sites in question it's kinda illusional. I'd recommend starting with a fresh domain, the only approach that makes sense with these types of sites is churn & burn.
     
  15. The Owl

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    If it is the links just disavow them you can find all your links with scrapebox backlink extractor.
     
  16. nobody00

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    I agree with the people that said it's not the links its the content since i haven't done any backlink building since a year ago and no new google update got released afaik and as you can all see from the majestic pics i barely have 1k links, there are other sites with tens of thousands of backlinks that are still alive.

    They say "Make sure your revised content is original and relevant to your site." but my articles were original/unique at the time of posting, if others copied my content they should be penalized not me, google can detected who had the original content from my knowledge. And relevant it is for sure.

    Do you guys think writing new 100% unique articles would give me a chance at recovering it?
     
  17. thegloballamella

    thegloballamella Newbie

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    You might be able to recover through the disavow tool but it could take a long time.
     
  18. cipango

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    Change the WHOIS info to fake name and address, then in a couple days write to them you're the new site/domain owner. They usually lift manual penalties easily for new owners. You might as well take down the website in the meantime so it looks like you just bought the domain. Then try with the same site again, or better yet, improve it.

    Oh, and change the Webmaster Tools account, and stop accessing the old one. You need the new account however, since this is how you "discovered" the penalty as the fresh owner.

    If you still can't get the penalty lifted, 301 to a new domain and put the old content up on it.
     
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  19. Edward Eric

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    Don't be panic. This is just a kind of warning from warning from Google. You can lift the penalty by export all the back links which you built in the past by using any tools.Then, identify and disavow the low quality links that harm your site. Then submit a reconsideration request. It can also happen due to content quality or more links point to the exact keywords.
     
  20. SEO Sicko

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    You can check with Google webmaster tools and you will get an idea Whats the problem is all about.
    Go ahead with Disavow directories it will clear all your non-quality links coming in your site.
    And submit to Google you will get the positive result I think.