1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Real Tomatoes... Sooo Tasty!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by madoctopus, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,249
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    Occupation:
    Full time IM
    Haven't seen real tasty tomatoes at the market since years. Never saw them in a supermarket. Always shitty, tasteless tomatoes. Sometimes though mostly tasteless they actually have a taint of taste but not of a tomato... more like cardboard soaked in horse shit. Even bought peppers once that smelled like hyacinth flowers... I was WTF.

    Always wondered why there are only shitty tomatoes. I mean they're imported from somewhere when out of season so that's why they suck. But during summer, local tomatoes from peasants are the same. These ones are edible actually (I'd eat them if I had nothing else to eat) but still mostly tasteless and have no scent.

    Happily my parents live at country side and each year they have awesome tomatoes. The kind from real, unaltered (genetically or otherwise) seeds. The difference in look, texture, taste, scent and shelf life between these awesome tomatoes and the ones you find to buy is huge. From the moment you take a real tomato from the vine, if you put it down, it starts to soften after 1 hour. If left outside in heat it cracks and bursts the juice out within a few hours. Even inside the house or inside the fridge it softens (and looses it's awesome taste after a few days). So it's basically impossible to sell in a store or market for more than 1 day. It simply doesn't survive at its full awesomeness. However the difference in taste compared to a commercial tomato is simply huge. Eat one real tomato and you feel how it feeds energy and health into it.

    Same with peppers and other veggies that are from natural unaltered seeds and grown in a garden naturally.

    You know how they say that is healthier to eat more veggies and fruits? It's all bullshit! I'm willing to bet that eating those crappy tomatoes will get you to a slow death. They simply can't be healthy considering how they taste, how much they resist on the shelf and how you feel when you eat them.

    Wanna know what's worst? Peasants have to make a living so they can't compete with those who use modified seeds. So they use them too. They get about 3-5 times more tomatoes per plant compared to natural tomatoes, they don't get affected by tomato diseases and have a hugely increased shelf life and obviously support transportation over long distances. There's even a chemical solution that they buy to ripen them all at the same time. They take a painting brush and brush the solution over each fruit and in 2 days all fruits are equally ripened (red) so they can sell them. So that's how the awesome market economy took a dump all over our food.

    Thinking at this made me remember an interesting movie i saw long time ago - Soylent Green from 1973 - IMDB link. Seemed a big exaggeration when I saw it... but now I'm starting to think we are slowly getting there.

    Now I realize many probably don't even remember or never knew how a real tomato tastes, looks and smells. But for those who do, do you guys still have them in your country (and what country are you from)? Where do you get them from, you grow them yourself or buy them. If you buy them from where? I'm really curious. I'd assume they're pretty much gone from western developed countries like US or UK but would expect them to still exist in poorer not so "advanced" countries. I'm not talking about tomatoes you grow yourself, because you can grow them naturally from fucked-up (modified) seeds and it's the same crap not a real tomato. I'm talking about 100% natural, unaltered, old, original tomato species.

    So... here are some real tomatoes. Just picked them off the plant in the garden and made a salad. Notice how the Cherry ones got so ripped that cracked on the vine and the bigger ones are kinda ugly/deformed looking. That's how real tomatoes are - imperfect. Look at them full-size for full detail. By the way this year was very dry. Not enough rain. Tomatoes are smaller than usual because of that. Most years some of them (certain species) grow at monster sizes (about the diameter of a 2 Liter CocaCola bottle or bigger). I even got some weird cross-polenization or something that made some plants make both Cherry type and big type of fruits on same plant - The biggest tomato in the pictures is pinkish and of a certian species and grew on same plant with the smallest tomatoes in the pictures which are red and as far as I can tell of a different species/kind :)

    Gallery link


    Just harvested
    [​IMG]


    Some are deformed, some are cracked
    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    A tasty completed salad (had no cucumbers though)
    [​IMG]


    Note all the juice that got out of them. That's not added oil or water but juice.[​IMG]
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 11
  2. illfounded21

    illfounded21 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2011
    Messages:
    1,147
    Likes Received:
    1,168
    Location:
    UK
    Wow, you really like tomatoes.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 4
  3. ShadeDream

    ShadeDream Elite Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2008
    Messages:
    2,209
    Likes Received:
    5,230
    Location:
    He who laughs last, laughs longest.
    tl;dr

    Talking of tomato's I need to eat mine before they go bad, but you should come to Europe, especially Eastern Europe where you can find real tomatoes with ease.
     
  4. ch8878

    ch8878 Elite Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    2,242
    Likes Received:
    428
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Gamer
    Location:
    Youtube
    Home Page:
    Unless you buy organic your going to get nasty hybrid garbage.
     
  5. Ninja250

    Ninja250 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2009
    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    72
    I have just sat and read this whole thread .. Then I realized .. I hate tomatoes!!
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  6. Seankearns

    Seankearns Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2012
    Messages:
    547
    Likes Received:
    365
    Location:
    Canada
    Way to buy into the whole bullshit organic trend.
     
  7. Ninja250

    Ninja250 Regular Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2009
    Messages:
    224
    Likes Received:
    72
    Here in the UK, tomatoes are bright red, perfect circle and are dripping with juice ... Is it a US thing? Those tomatoes look juicy, but deformed as hell

    UK tomatoes look like this:

    A-display-of-tomatoes-001.jpg
     
  8. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,249
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    Occupation:
    Full time IM
    Yes! :)
    That's where I'm from :)
     
  9. madoctopus

    madoctopus Supreme Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2010
    Messages:
    1,249
    Likes Received:
    3,498
    Occupation:
    Full time IM
    Generally if they look alike like they're cloned they're probably not the "real" tomatoes i'm talking about. Also, if they don't get bad (cracked or very soft) in the market within 8h-1day then they're certainly modified.
     
  10. demongerbil

    demongerbil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2011
    Messages:
    558
    Likes Received:
    513
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  11. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2009
    Messages:
    2,468
    Likes Received:
    10,148
    You 're confusing the cause and effect.
    Simply put, "industrial" tomatoes get produced by farmers because farmers want profit, just like us. It 's not some thugs forcing the poor farmers with guns to not produce the nice tomatoes. You could always pass a law to ban the cultivation of "industrial" tomatoes. You 'll just make the farmers really poor and people without access to any tomatoes at all :D

    I 've thought about it too. I 've been lucky to be raised in a place where I first hand access to pure products. When I moved to a big city, my food was from the stores and the difference in taste is unbelievable. I 'm sure that people who get to taste pure products at some point in their life will be totally surprised.

    Currently, I 'm getting constant supplies from relatives who live in the nearby villages. I live in South Europe. tomato1.jpg cucu1.jpg
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  12. DeuceP

    DeuceP Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2009
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    13
    I love fresh veggies planted my own garden this year :). The heirloom tomatoes are great, I believe there is a growing demand for heirloom seeds these days as they are unmodified through genetic processes. That being said I don't grow any heirloom stuff but even the fresh modern seed strains are so much better than you get from the grocery store.
     
  13. ch8878

    ch8878 Elite Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2009
    Messages:
    2,242
    Likes Received:
    428
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Gamer
    Location:
    Youtube
    Home Page:
    You must have never tried it organic food taste way better and it doesn't rott as fast.

    It really isn't that much more and taste allot better and the food lasts allot longer.
     
  14. Zapdos

    Zapdos Power Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2011
    Messages:
    597
    Likes Received:
    708
    Location:
    Eastern North Carolina
    Organic is better. I have no access to any though, the bugs in NC eat anything above ground and the moles, dogs and other large animals get to the stuff underground. Can't do it without lots of pesticides :|
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 1
  15. subster

    subster Elite Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2008
    Messages:
    1,864
    Likes Received:
    1,448
    Location:
    Krauthausen
    I just visited the botanical garden in Madrid, Spain. The tomates have been exact like on your pics.
    We did steal 2 of them and ate them directly on the street - it was one of the most tasty pleasures in my life. Supermarket tomates are nothing more than red waterbombs.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  16. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    2,034
    Likes Received:
    1,690
    Location:
    I come from a land downunder
    that'd be why I grow my own vegies, plus having a vegie garden makes the marijuana plants less obvious to my neighbours
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 2
  17. Sharksfan

    Sharksfan Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2010
    Messages:
    74
    Likes Received:
    30
    I made about 4 cups of fresh salsa the other day with fresh tomatoes off the vine. It lasted less than an hour.

    Two interesting things to note about that - salsa from the store always gives me heartburn....but fresh stuff does not. Makes you wonder what goes in it.

    Also, the OP alludes to something that most people are not aware of. Even if you go to the store and buy seeds you will NOT get the awesome tomatoes that most people crave. The seeds in stores have been altered and breed for decades to give tomatoes that are "perfect" looking and have a long shelf life. Some studies indicate the nutrition of these (and hence the flavor) is up to 1/50th of what it was originally.

    What you really want to find are seems for heirloom tomatoes - and it's well worth the time and effort if you can find them or if you can find a farmer who farms with old varieties.
     
  18. shailzrocks

    shailzrocks Jr. Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2012
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    1,766
    Occupation:
    Dolphin Seller in a Black Market
    Location:
    No Man's Land
    me and tomatoes don't go well together...

    But just changed my Mind.. The salad looks awesome..
     
  19. Coffee King

    Coffee King Junior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2011
    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    66
    Yeah, THOSE FREAKIN' JAPANESE BEETLES!
    I luckily was able to grow one, but the rest were obliterated.
    ;-;
     
  20. partymarty4870

    partymarty4870 Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    2,034
    Likes Received:
    1,690
    Location:
    I come from a land downunder
    I'm growing a variety called "black russian" they're a very dark red (almost purply black) when ripe and very soft and hard to slice - but the taste is incredible