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REAL Online Business (For People With Money) (Part 2)

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by carsonrathi, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Hey Guys,

    This is in continuation of my REAL online business thread.

    (If you don't have any cash to invest in your business, i am sorry you won't find much information for you)

    Note: What i am going to share is NOT a System, NOT a method, NOT a trick. It is a Business. What i do and i'll share how i do.

    You can earn money online by two ways i.e by offering Services or Product.

    My business completely focus on Products.

    FACT: Those people, who are actually making 'consistent' income online owns AT LEAST one unique product on there name.

    I'll share the information in Phases that you should follow:

    PHASE 1:

    Product Creation: In order to start your online business you need:
    1) YOUR product
    2) Sales Letter
    3) Graphics
    4) Affiliate Promo Material

    Step 1: Your Product, yes you need a 'Unique' product which you can call as your product, and believe me you'll find good money in software/scripts.

    I highly recommend in out sourcing your product creation and try to make script in PHP. So what kind of product you should PLAN to create.

    This depends on the current trends going on. My personal favorites are the products which are the 'add ons' to some other product or website.

    For example, i create Quick Video Optin system as i can see that people need to watermark there videos in order to redirect there visitor to there product.

    So:
    PROBLEM: Less action ration of youtube videos as visitor needs to 'type' the website URL on browser window and in this IT age, we are lazy and we prefer clicking rather typing

    SOLUTION: Create something which enables the Video creator to have call to action button or CLICK ABLE link right inside the video. The product SHOULD target majority of people (In this case, demand was huge because of increasing use of videos). So there i came up with an idea of QuickVideoOptin, i am NOT a software developer, i simply outsource it.

    RESULT:
    Once launched, We (me and my partners) sold access over $100K and it's recurring.

    Basically you should search warrior forum and black hat forum and you'll get easy ideas on what people actually needed OR even you can see that the customer of some XYZ product liked the XYZ product however they are missing some add on, so in this case you should be able to point your programmer to that XYZ product and just ask him to add some addons and thus you have a new product.

    Always plan to use PHP language as you will get cheap price programmer of this language (Cheap here doesn't means poor quality, it means your benefit due to currency differences)

    Step 2: Sales Letter: Don't compromise here, your sales letter is the entry or exit to your 'Thank you' page. Simply get copywriter (You'll get many on warrior forum). If you want my recommendation, i use Christie Wilson from Warrior Forum, she'll write very cool sales letter for $297. Once you pay to her, she'll send you a form, just fill it send it back to her and you'll have your amazing sales copy in 3-5 days.



    Step3: Graphics: You can easily get very nice MINI Site graphics WITH in $50. A minisite means Header - Footer- Product box - Testimonial Box - Video Box, ALL branded to your domain name.

    You actually need professionally looking graphics.


    Step 4: Affiliate Promo Material: DO NOT even think to ignore this part, we are busy people so do our potential affiliates. Always provide them ready made promo stuff like Custom landing page, PPC ads, Keywords, banners, ezine letters, BROADCAST emails (Pre launch and post launch), Youtube videos etc.

    You can contact 'Davers' of BHW, he'll provide you all material in very reasonable cost. He has designed for my both products. Very nice turn around time.

    HIGHLY RECOMMENDED : Use Click Bank as payment processor, this will help you to get affiliates and make your product viral.


    Phase 2: Getting Massive Traffic:

    This is very very important. If you ignore this part then you won't be able to make your product all over google.

    These are the traffic sources that i use and they REALLY work.

    Step 5: Go and buy $200 worth SEO visibility pack from PRweb.com (in my case some affiliate bought it and he is still making decent sales). They will place you all over internet. This is AWESOME to get word out about your product.


    Step 6: Buy Forum traffic based on your niche, in my case i bought the banner from Dnforum (as my Gtrendsassassin product is about domain names) worth $3k but this is giving me almost 50-70 optin every day and 5-7 sales a day.

    Search google for 'Your Niche Forum' and search advertise link.


    Step 7: ClickBank Paid Ads: You might have seen the Blue green ads all over clickbank.com, amazing fact is that almost 95% of there advertiser never leave there ad space because of getting affiliates and even sales of there product. It may cost you around $650/month depending on your niche.


    Step 8: MORE Affiliate: In order to get REAL serious affiliate, buy Broadcast Email pack from ABestWeb worth $800, IF they approve your product (They do not approve Make money kind of product) they will brodcast an stand alone email for your product's affiliate program. I have heard good things about them but unfortunately they have rejected my product as they think it's 'Make money' kind of product.


    Step 9: Free-Press-Release.com,: Buy there PAGE 1 PR placement service, i actually bought it like 17 hrs back and got 2 sales from them by now and it will be there for next 30 days. They charged me $321 +$30 to put my Press release on TOP on there front page. This actually helped me to get good back links and optin with sales

    Step 10: 6 Ads on PayDotCom: I have NEVER seen so awesome conversions from PDC side ads. It will cost you $50 per ad for 7 days and i recommend at least 7 ads with them for next 7 days as this way you will be getting maximum exposure.

    Step 11: Good standing accounts with BlackHatWorld, Warrior Forum and Digital Point forum. (I don't use DP so no idea)

    Marketing Strategy: So, How to do a Launch Without a list?

    Ok, so i assume you have a product with good sales page, Clickbank approved and accounts on all above website.

    Now, at least 30 days before you should have a launch date in mind, we'll take it as suppose 20th Feb, 2010 is your launch date, so on:

    On:

    21st Jan: Open a thread about your upcoming product on BHW and Warrior forum. DO NOT yet declare about your product rather inform that you are working on some script which will do XYZ things and ask for suggestions. You will get lot of suggestions so update your product with what you feel is required.

    25th Jan: Update the above thread that your product is ready and it will be launched on 20th Feb, now again share the features and benefits of your product, you will again get valuable data from member so that you can re modify your product according to latest requirement.

    30th Jan: Invite some Beta Testers fro both BHW and WF forum and provide them with Free copy, always provide review copy to reputable member and be free to get critiques as it's for your own good. Again modify product if the testers found any bugs.

    5 Feb: (Please use the SAME thread for all this, DO NOT open different threads) : Ask both forum member's to NOT to buy product once launched , inform them that you'll have WF or BHW special for them.

    12th Feb: Buy ALL above advertisement and redirect the traffic to your Index page WITHOUT sales letter. It should just have the 'Primary' benefit of your product, LAUNCH DATE and TIME and an Opt in form for launch notification. You should contact ABestWeb for broadcast at least 10 days before your launch as they will check your product.


    By Now, you can check google with your product name and find that people already promoting it using different means. This is great feeling.


    IMPORTANT: Here we are using ABestWeb, ClickBank ads and your forum ads to gain AFFILIATES not customers, always make separate pages for every advertising source to verify your stats.


    On 19th Feb (One day before launch): Broadcast all your list (you shuld have got at least 200+ ) people on your list by using above sources that you are going live tomorrow.


    On 20th Feb: Replace your optin page to your REAL sales page and email your list that you are like PLUS update all links of your above traffic sources to your MAIN sales page.

    You'll start getting sales (You WILL). ALWAYS keep an upgrade or OTO at backend with higher value.


    After 7 days of launch you will see 50-70 sales in your clickbank account, This will BRING OUT your advertising expense and you still have your product listed for whole month.

    Now, as you promised open up BHW special and WF WSO with your product discounted price. Remember these are the people who are eager to buy but they were waiting for special price which you just gave them. You can expect another 30-40sales fro each forum and this time ALL commission goes to your paypal, means INSTANT CASH.


    After 30 days of your product launch, you can see your product all over Google, Youtube, social sites etc + Clickbank screen shots + Paypal payments. Now take screen shot of all your payments and Flip it on Flippa.com

    FLIPPA.com : This is the new part of my business, i have decided to sell me every web site product in 40-50 days after launch.

    GUARANTEE: Using above advertising methods and marketing strategy you will be able to cover 8-10K in GROSS sales and with like 4-5k profit and showing this you can instantly FLIP your site for $10-$15k and thus ends with around $20K profit all in a month.

    If you have noticed we have don't need any JV partner, Big list etc for our own launch, you just need up font money and a system in place to spend it.

    So OVERALL:

    Your EXPENSE (I'll say rather investment) is: around $3-$4k in this COMPLETE system and return in NO WAY less then $17-$20 k (It may go upto $25k)

    So, you can seriously expect to make $12-20K profit in 60 days and once you have got all money, repeat the same process. You can easily cross $100k by this system every year and of course from your optin list.


    I have tried to make it more clear but i feel i was not able to write it the way i want to. WHATEVER, this works. Yes you need money, but this will yield you very very high ASSURED results.


    Please DO NOT PM me, ask me what ever you want here only.

    :cow_yello :cow_yello :cow_yello :cow_yello


    What i have shared here is what i do (just have a few JV's with me).

    Thanks.
     
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  2. bpicks

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    What's more effective for you - PRWeb or free-press-release?
     
  3. secretboy08

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    Honestly,I have been for this post from you for months,now.
    great post.
    one question:
    how to rope in big ticket affiliates?
     
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  4. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    No Bro, you took it wrong, it's not exploiting for sale. It's selling a 'usefull' product at discount to member's who want it in BST section.

    Thanks.
     
  5. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    To be true PRweb stuff is done by my affiliate, i bought Free-Press-Release.

    Because of PRWeb my product is in yahoo news:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20100125/bs_prweb/prweb3153764_2


    Rest i'll be able to share shortly in few days.

    Thanks.
     
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  6. secretboy08

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    edited my post above.sorry for the misunderstandings.
    btw when you were speaking about 650$ clickbank ads.
    do you advertise just in your category or overall?
    also can you pl. answer my question from post above.
     
  7. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    That category ad, you can still see my ad in employment section.
    I do not rely on big ticket jv's every time, just do above you will see small affiliates getting many sales.
     
  8. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Just to addon, always host your product on clickbank and make it recurring you will see more affiliates.

    Thanks,
    Carson
     
  9. wishmeluck

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    Carson,

    great post! thanks.

    How much do you normally pay for the product creation? and where do you outsource it?
     
  10. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Hey,

    It depends on script, you can get very good product done under $1k on Getafreelancer.com but BEWARE dealing with programmer there, make payment escrow.

    Thanks.
     
  11. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Bumping up so that more people can read.
     
  12. BusinessMachine

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    What's a good product price point?

    What percentage do you give affiliates?
     
  13. taxman1980

    taxman1980 Newbie

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    Does flipping all your sites bring better total profit, or is it just because you want to have the cash available quicker?
     
  14. chockfactor

    chockfactor Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Okay I have tried searching for part one, but I can't find it?

    Also if we say I wan't to keep the product the revenue will increase right?

    I mean you are investing a lot of money to get it going.

    And my guess is when it get's going you a looking at some nice monthly income am I right?
     
  15. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    @BusinessMachine : Good price point depends on product. If using ClickBank always for for recurring income product. I give 52% (around $50/sale) to my affiliates + $10/month

    @taxman1980: I see flipping as better way to end a 'project', if you want you can keep site and enjoy recurring profit however if you see big picture, you can repeat the above business model 4 times an year and get $100K in profit. This is totally possible.

    @chockfactor : It's pretty easy searching for phase one. For example, do you play farmville on facebook? in Farmville i realized that some times i forget to harvest my crops and so do millions of gamers at point of time, so why not make a software which can automatically harvest there farms on time. Then i google 'Farmville auto farming' and got few software which are not at all famous, with ' virus' sort of looks. Then the best idea is show that software to your programmer, design a better sales page, put it on clickbank, your programmer will brand that software with fresh addon and make it look more professional, thus you got a demanded product. Now you can simply advertise on facebook itself.

    There can be many ideas just go through forum, make a note of problem that you face, you'll get the amazing idea, the google the solution and see if anything like that exist, if there are already many programs that solve that 'specific' problem then don't go for it else just go ahead and hire a programmer for it.

    Believe me you can get a very well script under your name for price below $1k.

    See, if you are looking for just nice monthly income then yes, keep the product but when you have a 'business model' in front of you then why not use it.

    You can make like 4 launches every year and rake in $20k as profit from every launch!
     
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  16. host32

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    Hey mate !

    thats one heck of a thread! could make a very decent WSO! lol

    i have a question, what do you think about making high quality info nich info products ? not ebooks, but series of reports and videos and audios package in a 97$ package for example ? because i think that the software business is a bit risky since you don't have controle over what your programer is putting inside teh code and he could easly mess up your reputition ...

    and pelase please i need your reply on this thread, it's gonna help a lot !

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-here-my-experience-30k-auguste-possible.html

    Thanks
     
  17. carsonrathi

    carsonrathi Senior Member

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    Hey,

    I am sorry but i dont like to create and sell info product. Also, if you have good relations with programmer and your programmer have good feedbacks, you won't face any problem like that.

    Thanks,
    Carson
     
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    Bump cause i think it's a good thread, more people should read it.
     
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  19. adrien23

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    Sorry man, PMed you by accident before reading the last statement earlier...
    Either way just disregard the PM as I've decided to go another route.

    Though my question is, do you think the weight loss niche is worth launching a product in? I'd like to have a well converting product. and am willing to spend money on graphics + a sales page...will likely write the ebook myself though.

    Thanks
     
  20. Jaz

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    Truly an awesome thread, very detailed and inspirational.

    The biggest hangup for me if the actual product ideas, what process do you go through when coming up with ideas. Any chance you could elaborate a bit more on this part of the process. I love/agree the marketing technique ,my hangup has always been product creation. Do you need to be just born with the inventor mindset?