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Rankings Dropping for 6 months

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by str8thustler, Nov 28, 2010.

  1. str8thustler

    str8thustler Power Member

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    Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has had a similar problem. I've had my site up for about 6 months now. Every two weeks or so I lose all my rankings, not deindexed then it rebounds and gains them some what back. Then two to three weeks later blam all ranks gone.

    6k xrumer links blast
    scrapebox about 10k comments
    article submits
    and about 1500 profile links

    All the content is hand written. Any ideas?
     
  2. RedWolf

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    are u using wordpress ?

    also check crawal error with google webmaster tool
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  3. str8thustler

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    yah using wordpress with thesis theme there are two crawler errors, a /null and a /' rel='external nofollow . sitemap is submitted and is fine
     
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    I'm facing the same problem for the past one month! My site is ranking on page one for many keywords. It is not deindexed actually, but it completely goes out of SERP atleast twice a week. I didn't update my site for a while and also stopped building links. May be that could be the reason. Now I started updating it and building backlinks too. Let's see!
     
  5. str8thustler

    str8thustler Power Member

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    wow one thing i did just notice, i had 5500 backlinks pointing my site and now google is showing none
     
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    ahh man, looks like google finally deindexed the site. argh. what are the chances of it coming back?
     
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    this is happen due to xrumer blasts or instant high baklinking.

    but this is not a problem within few weeks ur site back and this time more stronger

    also check robot.txt in webmaster tool. google bots is visiting ur site normally ?
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  8. RedWolf

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    did u ping ur backlinks ?

    xrumer blast, scrapebox comment etc ?
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  9. txhepoker

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    Same for me... Page 2-3, then slap... back to page 6-10... Trying to rebuild...

    The advice, I've received is keep blasting... So I'm going to kick ass seabass!
     
  10. Longover

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    I have a few sites doing that. Not sure if I'd call it the Google dance or the sandbox, but somewhere in Google's penalty box.

    What I did that triggered it consistently was to use ALN excessively. I think because the links are indexed rather quick and the anchor texts are too similar.

    Sometimes, and this is just sometimes, you can get it to jump back around its original position by hitting it with a few irrelevant anchor text links. Such as "click here" "visit" and another good one to throw in is the domain or url that you are linking to "http://www.mysite.com"

    I've noticed good results with profile links and about a 50% relevant to 50% irrelevant ratio for anchor text.

    Just my experience though.
     
  11. str8thustler

    str8thustler Power Member

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    nevermind it is still there. Dxseo, I had over 5500 backlings indexed by google stated by webmaster tools about 5 days ago. Now when I revisit, it shows that there is none. Does google just drop your backlinks? One problem I did see is that some site had picked up some part of my feed or something and I had 4300 backlinks coming from one site.
     
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    After reading the posts while I was writing my last post, I think that this is a new trend with Google. I should do some more precise testing and see what is causing it...
    -Too many high PR links (i.e. ALN)?
    -Anchor texts too similar (i.e. "keyword" and "keyword review")
    -Not enough link diversity (i.e.: article links, profile links, video links, social bookmarks, blog comments, etc...)
    -Something else?
     
  13. str8thustler

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    not sure long, my link diversity was blog commenting, profile links, social book marking, rss submission, and forum links. Now i was shooting for about 15 different keywords.

    How were your backlinks poiting to ur page? mostly main page or did you mix it up and point it to inner pages?
     
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    How is pinging different from rebuilding your xml and sending it..?
     
  15. Longover

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    I was pointing links directly to the root. Link diversity was basically profile, aln, social bookmarking, and some other similar stuff.

    going for about 1 to 2 keywords with a very targeted site.

    I hit page #1 in about 1 month and stayed there for a few months. No adsense, analytics, or any google stuff on my site either.
     
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    depends on what your talking about, pinging backlinks or your site?
     
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    well there is one similarity, i pointed most of my links to the main domain too.
     
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    By the way, to combat this google stupidity, I have been duplicating position 1 backlinks for sites in similar niches. I've noticed that doing this seems to be pulling some of the sites out of this gutter.
     
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    must be something to do with backlink quality
     
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    I'm not sure because when i look at a few sniper (thin affiliate sites) that stick in google, I see:
    -a fair amount of link diversity (some have mainly blog comments or profile links)
    -not a lot of content or pages
    -anchor text variation is about 30% target or related and 70% odd variations
    -most or all links to the root

    I am running a test of sorts right now with 3 domains. I've made it a point to throw in the "click here" "visit" and "url.com" anchor texts from the start. I'm not using aln at all and I'll see how it goes.

    But I would really like to get a concrete answer on why this is happening and what Google is looking at or looking for on my sites.