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Ranking for a keyword that is nowhere on your site.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by lablinks, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. lablinks

    lablinks Senior Member

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    How difficult is it & is it possible at all?

    The keyword doesn't appear in the title, body or domain name. The competition is not strong. Has anybody done something like this? I want at least #3 on G. :D
     
  2. masteraffmarket

    masteraffmarket Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    so you want to trick users to coming to an irrelevant site?

    not a good idea
     
  3. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover Newbie

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    In theory it could be possible if Google would attach more value to Latent Semantic Indexing and if you would get a boatload of backlinks with the keyword in question.
     
  4. lablinks

    lablinks Senior Member

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    The site is relevant. The relevant content is in video & audio format, not in text.
     
  5. RaveRandi

    RaveRandi Registered Member

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    This is totatly possible! One time google had an article about buying viagra, and they appear number 5 on SERPs for buying virgra.

    Why?

    Well exteremly High Authority got them up there.

    And It's also called google bombing or bowling.

    It's a majority about the acnhor text. If the keyword is extremely competitive, it would be also extremely hard to rank. Back links won't just cut it for high compilation.
     
  6. mdv1975

    mdv1975 Junior Member

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    I have done it before with a low competition key word by simply having 10 blog posts on PR 2 and PR3 sites that used the keyword in their title of the post and in the anchor text.

    I did this over a year ago, and the site they point to ranks #2 still. No new links, and the work is nowhere to be found on the site.

    There is also a site that ranks #1 for this keyword and the word does not appear on the page. When you click on cache it actually says "These terms only appear in links pointing to this page: My Keyword"
     
  7. BlackxHat

    BlackxHat Power Member

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    Why cant you just put the keyword somewhere. the footer, sider, header, anywhere.
     
  8. c0ntenth|ef

    c0ntenth|ef Power Member

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    keyword density can also play a roll some of my pages rank for some keywords that are popular and i did not optimize the pages for those keywords at all
     
  9. lablinks

    lablinks Senior Member

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    about 3mil results. 30K exact searches according to GKT.

    #3 has the keyword everywhere, including the domain name. Has only 30 PR N/A crappy backlinks though for the entire site.

    #4 is some PR1 myspace profile, keyword in the a couple of times. Backlinks are all from myspace pages.

    #1 is an article on a site similar to ezine, PR6 domain. The article page itself is 0 PR with a few backlinks, which are not strong, however the page is full of keywords over 60 times.

    The site/page I wanna rank for this KW is 2 months old, no PR, has about 10K backlinks, different campaign. I know I should be able to push to #4. Not sure about #3. I don't see beating 1 & 2 without some good onsite SEO, which I'm not willing to do on this site.
     
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  10. lablinks

    lablinks Senior Member

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    It's a solid site, despite the fact that I've blackhatted it to rank for my main keywords. Although this new keyword is relevant, having it on the page would look childish.
     
  11. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Let's say you are selling a product that is very similar to another well known branded product.

    It would be classified as illegal etc if you had the branded keyword on your page 'passing' your product off as another. The other company/brand might also get angry and try and take legal action.

    If I build links to my site with the anchor text as the 'brand name' and the brand name is not mentioned in my site at all, do you still think it is possible to get in legal trouble? As the passing off of the brand is only via anchor texts in the links pointing to your site, but no where else?
     
  12. lablinks

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    bumper
     
  13. backflip7531

    backflip7531 Registered Member

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    yes, and add it to meta-keywords (hidden unless someone looks at your page source) to help rank
     
  14. oinky222

    oinky222 Regular Member

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    couldnt you use a plugin like wpcloacker? that way, the search engines would think the keyword is on your page, but no human would see it. alternatively, can you just put the keyword in but make it the same color as the background so nobody can see it? or will google penalize you for doing that?