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Ranking a youtube video in Google - Questions

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Gigabet, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Gigabet

    Gigabet Junior Member

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    1. How many links can safely be build to a brand new video on a brand new channel?

    2. Social indicators vs. high pr backlinks, what is more important?

    3. Should I build tiered links to a youtube video or just tier 1 links?

    4. Are views and/or subscribers important when ranking a youtube video in google?
     
  2. flashday

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    I drip twitter retweets, google+. facebook etc to my video and it's 1 week old. In youtube it's on 8th or 9th spot but in Google its 1st and I think its because of the social signals.
     
  3. kochhansie

    kochhansie Regular Member

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    If I may ask what service you using for social signal dripping?
     
  4. innozemec

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    There's no set number that is considered safe.. just start sending slowly and steady, don't do big numbers at once..

    social signals have more value for videos, but and high pr links do great job

    views/likes/subscribes have the most importance when ranking a video, make sure to try to get high retention views
     
  5. Gigabet

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    Do you think 300 a day are to many? (all pr1+ )
     
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    I dont understand why views would be important for ranking on google? Shouldnt it be pure SEO?
     
  8. innozemec

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    because G reads stats from YT when ranking videos. If your video is unpopular in YT, it won't rank high in G as well. To be popular in YT you need to have views/likes and etc..
     
  9. qlithe

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    So how many views are ideal? Does google care about retention?
     
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    there's no correct answer on that..
     
  11. KaisGuy

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    1. The amount of links doesnt really matter to be honest as they don't all get indexed at once. It does take time. For instance, i have ranked highly competitive videos with just a few views, comments, favourites, likes and social bookmarks.

    2. Both are important, but since YouTube is owned by Google, they are putting more and more emphasis on Social Signals. I'd say mix em up!

    3. Again, since YouTube is already an Authority and its not like its going to penalize itself, doesnt matter here. What I would suggest you do however is make use of URL shortening services. By that I mean, when you do backlinking, you need to use all these different "short versions" of your YouTube URL so that it looks more natural instead of just linking all the links to your normal video URL.

    4. Retention views are important, but I always suggest to sprinkle regular non retention views in there as well because, lets be honest, not every single user ALWAYS watches the entire video. Subs does help to a certain extent with regards to Authority, but I would suggest sending some links to your Channel as well as your Vids.

    Hope this helps you out mate and best of luck

    Ciao

    Ruoall
     
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  12. qlithe

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    Well are there any guidelines? Like a ratio for backlinks:views or something? And do google care about retention?
     
  13. tamland

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    Yes, views/subscribers do affect google ranking
     
  14. KaisGuy

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    There aren't any guidelines as such. Nothing is set in stone mate.

    Best thing to do is take the top 10 or so and work on the averages.

    Retention is important mate as it makes it look like the people are actually spending time on your videos. Think of it like Bounce Rates.