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Rank 1 YouTube video for 50 keywords, or 50 separate videos?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by krzysiekz, Mar 19, 2011.

  1. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Hello,

    I've got an idea into something i'm looking into, and would like to promote it initially by video. I can make a nice, 30 second introduction to my service which is targeted for local businesses.

    I am trying to target all over my country though, not just in one town.

    Now, has anyone has experience with ranking their YouTube video for many keywords and having that one video appear for all of them on the first page of Google - or am I better off making each video 'unique' and uploading it to YouTube and optimising it for specific search terms in the titles.

    The only benefit I can see in the case of making separate videos is the added SEO boost as the titles would be more SEO friendly rather than just one-title-fits-all.

    However, in terms of video tags and all of that I could just use all of the services/towns names in the tag and that would still be fine. Plus, that way - it is just one video that gets all of the views (and views help the videos rank better anyway) so one video with a lot of views would be better than 50 videos, each with not to many views?

    What are your thoughts and ideas on this?

    Thanks!
     
  2. MagicMike

    MagicMike Power Member

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    I think you would probably get one video to rank for many multiple keywords/cities by adding the "city keyword" to the end of your description, in addition to putting them in the tags.

    Give it a couple of weeks and see where you rank, then create additional, targeted videos only for the cities that have tougher competition.

    Also, I'm convinced that there is SEO value by adding a transcript for closed caption for your video as well... so you might want to add that to give Google something extra to "read" as well.
     
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  3. mland

    mland Newbie

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    From experience, I would actually recommend creating/uploading not one video for each target keyword but TWO.

    The reasoning behind this is that (again from experience) it is easier to get your video to display on the first page of the SERPs if there is more than one video that Google can show that meets the search criteria, think about it, pretty much every time you see videos on the first page there is always at least two shown, so why not make them yours.

    Never rely on just one video to get all the views, having more videos targeting more but similar KWs gives you a better chance of viewers watching not one but multiple videos of yours and this can only help to get them more interested in your service and show that you are an expert.

    Also, about the similar tags, that actually very beneficial since whenever someone finds/watches on of your videos on YouTube; most likely, the "Related Videos" listed on the right-rail will be the others you have uploaded so this goes back to people watching more that one video and seeing you as an expert.
     
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  4. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Thanks for your input guys - much appreciated.

    Also, good idea on adding the 'city keyword' onto the end of the description. It would likely be quite hard to 'blend' in all of the city names and keywords into the description properly - so apart from it looking odd to humans (possibly), do you think Google might get a bit suspicious if at the end of the human-friendly description text there would be a fair few city names and keywords there?

    I am liking the idea of promoting the one video instead of the 'same' video uploaded many, many times trying to target all of the keywords. One video is a lot easier to manage!

    Mland, you raise a VERY interesting point - one that I have never thought about doing but now that you mention it makes PERFECT sense. I'll get two videos made in this case (both short and sweet) both with same/similar tags and different descriptions (but descriptions still keyword rich) and this way Google will have two videos fitting criteria to show on the results. Wow - great idea!
     
  5. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Seems your experience tells you to upload 2 videos per each set of keywords we're trying to target. In the case of about (potentially) 50 keywords, gets a little hard (and tedious!). Thoughts?
     
  6. johandr

    johandr Regular Member

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    make 2 video's per keyword. youtube tags are almost as useless as meta tags in google....
    your best bet would to put the main keyword in the title, and in the description

    then give the video's thumbs up and much comments. it'll be ranked in no-time :D
     
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  7. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Yep, great ideas. Two videos, main keyword (will be the name of the type of service offered - since this word will be in all searches) then the names of the cities/towns will go in the description.

    I'll buy a lot of comments / ratings / thumbs to get the video ranking - but, will there be a problem if a lot / most of the purchased views are worldwide and not from Australian IP's?

    I have a small project going on now and I sent some views to some videos (via Viewet) and the videos are ranking better for 'keyword' in Google.com than Google.com.au for the same 'keyword'. Could be there is more competition in Google.com.au for that keyword than in Google.com,

    Either way, hope the origin of the views / thumbs up / ratings doesn't affect the SERP results of the video in Google.com.au!
     
  8. Paran01d

    Paran01d Junior Member

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    Let's think about what can happen, if you decide to use only one video and you get rank for 50 KWs. That means you have a huge list of competitors who want to see your video get down. So don't put all eggs in one basket!
     
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    dhgdhgfgh Junior Member

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    Yes since you want to push your Videos into the TOP10 SERPS to get the Videos in front of your audience, you should produce for each targeted Keyword one Video and then blast it out to as many Video, Podcast, Status, Blog Sites as possible. If you are looking for an easy to use solution then i can recommend trafficgeyser. Especially YT Videos rank high in G if you go out and buy some Ratings and Viewers. But you can try to build up some Backlinks for the Videos to achive the same results.
     
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  10. krzysiekz

    krzysiekz Senior Member

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    Thanks guys. Getting some mixed opinions here, so not too sure what to do!
     
  11. Nosleepever

    Nosleepever Registered Member

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    Do an xrumer blast to your video urls and watch what happens. Exact titles rule. I do need to find a rating and comment service as I blast out hundreds of vids a t a time.
     
  12. BigBadJohn

    BigBadJohn Newbie

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    Great idea about adding the 'city keyword' onto the end of the description and adding two videos with the same keyowrds. I've never heard these ideas before.
     
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  14. markhenry121

    markhenry121 Elite Member

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    I will suggest you optimize YouTube Video, some Techniques here Choose Relevant Keywords(you already done that work)choose your keywords accordingly:
    Names (celebrities)
    Titles (movies, shows)
    Quotes
    Actions/verbs
    Objects in the video (cars, etc.)
    Emotions (funny, hilarious)
    Optimize Your Video Title
    Optimize Your Tags
    Add city keyword for local promotion.

    If you follow that step properly, you can get #1 YouTube video for 50 keywords, or 50 separate videos.