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Quickly generate trafic to a new website

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by supramanneke, Feb 13, 2010.

  1. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Hello guys!

    I am in Belgium and I have a specialized website, where people can buy mobile phones and accessories online.
    I am looking for a way now to build traffic very fast. Being a Belgian website (.be , not .com ), and only targetting Belgian people , I don't think this should be such a big problem.
    And, yet, I do not know where to start.
    Are there some white, grey, or dark-grey methods I can use? :)
    I'd be happy to learn it from you guys.!

    Thanks
     
  2. BlackhatApproved

    BlackhatApproved Newbie

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    AdWords can work really well especially if you have a product to sell. You can specify to advertise the adwords just in your country.
     
  3. tacopalypse

    tacopalypse Executive VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    sign up to google adwords and you can get thousands of belgian visitors a day starting tomorrow.
     
  4. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    I was thinking to do that, but I'm afraid the cost is going to be too high for the amount of sales I'm gonna make on the website.
    Many people look for mobile phones on the net, to get info about them. Not specifically because they want to buy. So, I guess I'm gonna be paying too much for basically worthless visitors.
    That's why I'm looking for a way to get those visitors for free. Then, even if only one out of 50 or even 100 buys something, at least I didn't loose the money in getting the visitors
     
  5. giotech

    giotech BANNED BANNED

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    I'm going to give you a HUGE tip that is going to save you lot's of times and frustration. If you are not confident in your own product/site, how can you expect anyone to be? I understand what type of site you have, and yes it's true that people look on these sites for info about phones, however that just means that you don't want to traffic this type of traffic. Nothing is free in the IM world, whether it costs time or money, you can't be scared to lose it, most likely you will at first.

    With that being said, if your afraid that people are going to come to your site just for information, then the answer is simple! Don't that kind of traffic. Target BUYING traffing, not information looking traffic.

    How do I do this? There are many ways and I can't give you the answers to everything, but think about what keywords people use when they want to buy something, some are extremely easy to figure out. Such as "best deal on Tmobile BlackBerry Curve Germany". Don't use search terms like BlackBerry Curve, if your goal is to sell.

    Hope this helps, if you have any further questions feel free to PM me.
     
  6. zoneweb

    zoneweb Newbie

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    Try marketing it on social bookmarking sites like twitter. It's gonna require a lot of work though.
     
  7. booster2ooo

    booster2ooo Junior Member

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    Look for belgian sites/blogs and ask webmasters for link exchange. Try to find some Belgian boards and be active there (put your website in your sign). Don't forget to have your site translated in the 3 lang too :)
     
  8. booster2ooo

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    Twitter is very used in US but way less in EU (Facebook is better, way more used than Twitter)

    (and yes, using social media is a good idea too ;) )
     
  9. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Thanks so much for the reactions so far, guys!
    You are being a little vague about everything, but I can understand that... Nothing comes free in this world, right ;-)
    We all have to find our own way in this maze of internet marketing, and that's not different for me :)
    I guess, working on some good backlinks from forum sites would be the best, and then I'll try some facebook tricks as well.
    Twitter is not so much used here in Europe, that's right.
    Is there a way to get to know what keywords people are using when they want to buy something?
    I used to have a link to a website where you can see how many times certain keywords are entered in the search engines (I lost the link now)
     
  10. AlphaTwin

    AlphaTwin Registered Member

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    This might be the website you are looking for:
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    https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal
    Just think logically - if you were to buy a phone, what would you search for? "Cheapest iPhone", "Best iPhone deal", "Cheapest phone shop" whatever - think of a lot of these ideas, and use every phone brand you have. If you use long tail keywords you will get more targeted buying traffic, and get the traffic a lot cheaper.
    Run all your keyword ideas throught the Google Keyword tool, and take every single on of them that recieves traffic.
     
  11. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Yeah, I'll get into that, definitely. Just need to find the right keywords I guess.
    Basically I was hoping to get some nice BHW tricks to get easily ranked on the search engines quickly for the general keywords, like the model of the phone (so not the long tail keywords), but I guess that's gonna be very hard.
    Although I still think that the competition on the .be sites is not that much killing. Because most of the online mobile phone shops don't use specific IM strategies.
    I own a genuine mobile phone shop, but would like to sell more and more on internet. That's the whole idea.
    And e-bay doesn't look like a good tool, since I can't seem to do a single sale. Although my prices are extremely competitive.
     
  12. booster2ooo

    booster2ooo Junior Member

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    Here is how I generaly work
    (0 - Check known concurrents. eg: thephonehouse and check for their links/keywords density)
    1 - brainstorm for keywords (acheter iphone, acheter iphone pas cher, gagner iphone, iphone kopen (NL), iphone kaufen (DE) etc.) (Belgium requires work for each lang)
    2 - Analyse KW results/competition
    3 - build website with targeted keywords (KW in title, meta desc, meta kw, <h*> tags, links...)
    4 - Try to build backlinks/buzz (Link exchange, stats sites, social medias, spam, etc.)

    For me, the AdWord solution isn't very good: before paying ads, try the natural way. Futhermore, a ebay shop could be a source of backlink for your main site. Ebay is quite well indexed in Google if my observations are right.

    Hope it helps ;)
     
  13. crack_dhat

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    use senuke, xrumer, scrapebox..or other link building tools
     
  14. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Again, I'm gonna follow booster2000 regarding the adwords: I don't think that is very interesting in this case. Building backlinks sounds best to me.
    I am using pr storm now and then, to get the stats backlinks. But, I don't wanna use it too much, since it's been reported to be pretty dangerous.
    Thanks for the tips so far anyways, guys!! ;-)

    PS: @Booster2000 : are you from Belgium too, since you know so much about this little meaningless little piece of land? :p
     
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    If you're interested in PPC don't look to just adwords though. They are very tricky, especially lately. Try them, but also don't forget the others such as Yahoo Search Marketing and Bing. I hear Bing is actually picking up quite well. Might be worth a shot.
     
  16. booster2ooo

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    Yes I am ;)
     
  17. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Hello again guys.. Not sure if anyone has an answer to this :

    Imagine, I can't make my website myself, because it needs to be made in such a way that it's really professional, with databases etc. It is being made by a professional website builder. The only problem is, this way I don't think the site will be very 'google-friendly'. I mean, no important keywords will be in the website link , I'm afraid even the whole website will be keyword-poor, because he works with a database. I don't know, I'm really thinking that the thing will not be good enough for google to find it by the keywords.
    Now, I was wondering, would it help if I made a little shit-site myself, with all the SEO elements needed, and promote that shit-site to the maximum level, and put many many links in that shit-site, pointing to the beautiful professional website ?
    I was thinking to do that, but I wanted to ask you guys first if it's a good idea.
    Thanks!
     
  18. waystar

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    Ok you used the word "free" As we all no nothing is free in life:)
    If you want free traffic you will need to roll up your sleeves and learn how to SEO, whether blackhat, greyhat, whitehat or nohat.

    You are starting in the right place -on this site. So by doing that you are ahead of 99% of people interested in learning the 'art' of SEO.

    There is a 'cost' for free traffic and that is TIME. That is the tradeoff. If you dont have time to spare then jump onto google adwords, but there is a huge learning curve there also..but it will 'cost' you, less time.

    I know this may not sound like a lot of help but at least you wont be walking into this this with an attitude of quick expectations.
     
  19. supramanneke

    supramanneke Regular Member

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    Oh, but don't worry. I'm not a complete newbe, to tell you the truth ;-)
    I have managed in the past to build up a website that made it to number 1 on google for my main keyword. So, I do know a little about SEO.
    The only problem is that my website never attracted so many visitors (I guess it was about 100/day back then), and I only managed to monetize it with adsense. So, really, I never made a lot of money with my "great website" :)
    Now, I am about to do the same with my shop's website, and I'm looking for as much information as I can possibly find.
    The main problem here is that I am not building the website myself (a professional website builder is creating it), so I can't do much SEO on the website itself.
    So, I'm looking for other ways to get there now.
     
  20. SpiderWebMaster

    SpiderWebMaster Power Member

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    why not? digg your nose deep down his code and make it suit your needs ;)

    and if you are paying you can demand a site with good onsite SEO. any website "builder" that deserves that name should know how to do that.