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Quick Question Guys: Can i Flip A Site Without Previous Earnings? [URGENT PLZ]

Discussion in 'Site Flipping' started by mastino, Apr 25, 2016.

  1. mastino

    mastino Junior Member

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    Hello BHW

    I will keep this short to save everyone's time, Just Like the title says i would like
    to know if i can sell a site that has no previous earnings report. In-fact i think
    i need to sell this site because am in urgent need of money and am working on
    another Project ATM.

    I bought the domain over 1 Year+ now, installed word-press and bought 5 unique
    article also built some manual back-link back then. Before i abandoned the site :(

    And i haven't touch the site since then, just login to my c-panel and saw the site and
    taught it wouldn't be a bad idea to sell it off rather than have it sit there. Below is some
    quick stats i gathered while writing this post.


    Domain Stats

    Domain: PMD (Partial Match Domain)
    Domain Age: 1 Years 6 Months
    WordPress Installation (Genesis Theme)
    5 Unique Post


    Niche Stats

    Health/Wellbeing
    Fairly Competitive,

    1st Keyword: 14,800 Local US Search | $5.06 CPC | 4 words
    2nd Keyword: 9,900 Local US Search | $5.47 CPC | 4 words
    3rd Keyword: 2,400 Local US Search | $3.20 CPC | 4 words

    According to Ahrefs its already ranking for some long tail organic keyword
    between page 5 - 10. (See Screenshots below)

    ahref stats.PNG


    So, that's what i can offer as Stats about the site, please i need suggestions
    if i can really sell this site for a fair amount and how do i go about it.
    Like i said am in a tight spot and really need Some Cash urgently to sort out
    some personal shit and invest on the project am currently working on.

    Thanks for your time, and your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
    Its 4a.m over here, so i gats to hit the bed now.
     
  2. soulcollector

    soulcollector Senior Member

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    It shows promise, but you'll never make more money than a domains income value x8. So I expect you to understand that you'll be making $100 or less on the domain if you go on flippa and somehow avoid the scammers. The site is garbage because its not making any money, and its still ranking for long tails. If you were looking at sites would you buy this one or one that is making money and ranking for the keywords?
     
  3. mastino

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    Garbage, you say?..
    You jump into this conclusion based on what?.. because its not making money at the moment? That's a bit short sighted
    if i may say bro. And to cap it off . You know not, the money and time i spent on developing that site, of which i incurred
    a cost of more than a $100 bucks. Now, what was your question again?

    If you were looking at sites would you buy this one?
    Ok lets keep the fact that the site its not earning ATM aside. Now the question to be asked is, how come a site of over 1
    years is not earning a penny? and how do i solve this?.

    ANS: Lack of Traffic (its that Simple)
    Mind you no effort on my part has been put into driving traffic to the site in question, and as you and i both know there
    are various ways of pulling traffic to any site (owning to the fact that the Person actually knows what he/she is doing.)

    Now to Ans your Question "If you were looking at sites would you buy this one?" ANS: HELL YEA... Did you just ask why?.. (you probably should)

    Let's take your assumption (domains income value x8) into consideration and predict if its worth investing on this site.
    (Note: The below figure is just an example and not in any way accurate or attainable, do not take any of the figures seriously).

    I have not sold a site or domain before but from what you said, And if am not quoting you wrong. your statement above meant that..
    The value of a site is measure by the income of the site per year Multiple by 8?. (although I stand to be corrected if am wrong.)

    OK Then, let's do some calculation.. Based on the Main keywords and Sub Keyword, if ranked properly the site should easily
    make more than $20 per day (which is a very low figure if i must say).

    Per Day:
    $20
    Per Month: $20 x 30 = $600
    Per Year: $600 x 12 = $7,200

    Annual Value of Site: Income Per year X 8 (using your estimation)
    Site Selling Value: $7,200 x 8 = $86, 400

    Oh well that may be a little bit over exaggerated, but not impossible to achieve hope you got my point. Like i said above,
    this imaginary yearly income can only be achieve when the keywords are properly ranked. And i believe there are quite a
    few people on this forum that can pull this off in less than six month, provided that they have the right tools.

    But f** that, i am a firm believer in Figures.. Now the next sensible question is, what would be the cost of ranking This site?

    Now; Lets assuming i have a budget of $5000 to invest in some sort of Long Term business (remember this is all happening in my head "imaginary").
    With that being said, with that chunk of money aside to invest on any opportunity then i must be a very busy Man, and have
    no time to baby sit 1 Year+ Site. In simple terms, i will split up the cash and budget them as below;

    Buying The Site: $1000
    Outsource Content: $500
    Outsource Link building: $2500 (drip feed over a certain period of time)
    Redesign the site: $200
    Misc: $800 (For unforeseen Spending)


    OPTIONS ON THE TABLE
    option 1: Would i rather invest $5000 on a site that is yet to generate income, Rank it and watch it Grow hence generating my
    initial investment in Less than 1 Yea recover, and enjoy the ROI for the rest of the sit life.

    OR

    Option 2: Buy a high value site for $30,000+ and wait for More than 2+ years to recover my Investment? Taking Google algo into
    consideration?.. What option would you rather pick?..


    The Truth is i really don't appreciate your comment, sounds as-if you are bashing the site just because its not earning. Hell your
    comment alone must have driven people that might show interest on the Website :D:D:D . And one last thing before i hit the road.

    There is Opportunity in the Little things that seems irrelevant is nothing, only those that have the foresight shall Reap its Benefit,...
    :cool::cool::cool:

    So have a Nice Day Mr.SoulCollector,..
     
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  4. islandman1010

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    He means 8x monthly income. So that's 8x $0. Just to clarify how its worked out.
     
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    Damn some1 here's a bit defensive about their site, holy moly...
     
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    jimijam Registered Member

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    I love when people ask for opinions and then get butthurt as soon they don't get the answer they're looking for.

    You bought a domain, a few links and some content. A monkey could do this 20 times a day. Your site is worth nothing.
     
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  7. rob1977

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    the sites not garbage, and it is ranking for some long tails.

    however its making no money, and doesn't seem to have any real traffic, and ONLY 5 articles.

    so what you are hoping is that someone is going to buy it for a price based on the work they will have to put in == potential value.

    its not really going to happen. at best its worth the

    price of a url = $12
    price of wordpress = free
    5 articles = free or maybe cost of labour

    mate im sorry but I think $100 was a wee bit optimistic, the same stuff can be bought in a BST for $49 or something.

    its at best a beginner site not really an asset.

    ps. just saw above you said buy the site for $1000. not on your life mate your in a dream.
     
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  8. T2tkid

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    Op, if the domain is something like men.com or money.com, then it is going to worth some $$ even if it is not earning a penny.

    But for a partial domain built 1+ years ago, and earning $0, well, the worth is still zero $0.
     
  9. SupremeBotBuilder

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    It is not hard, you basically get a list of around 100-500 potential buyers by scraping/grabbing/researching their emails on the web. You gotta hustle to sell a pipe dream to a dummy. Besides, a dummy is born every second so there is plenty of money to go around if you wish to make a quick buck. You can keep my commission for helping you out!
     
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    Without Valid/Proven Earning, it will not get the High Value. Without Proven Earning it will be consider as new website.
     
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    loedown Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    You can sell anything to anybody, you just have to work at it more with some.
     
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    Yes you can... people do it all the time here on BHW.

    Go to the market section you'll see people selling authority sites, micro niche sites that will make you $5000/month on auto pilot and make you a millionaire, all for the small price of $39+
     
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    You should mention in your post that you want to hear answer $10K+
     
  14. THECORE1337

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    are you saying that I can't buy a site for 39 bucks and start earning right away and buy some backlinks and become a millionaire in a year?

    damn... need a new strategy :beach2(2)
     
  15. Fr4nk-M4rt1n

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    Greetings everyone.

    I have a very similar issue. I have this product/site I want to sell for at least what I paid to have it built but it has no sales and no traffic.

    I don't know squat about traffic generation so every suggestion on how to sell it for a profit or how to get serious traffic to it and sales from it is welcome.