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Questions regarding PBNs, Domains, Keywords, and other Newbie Stuff!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by georgegash, Jul 28, 2016.

  1. georgegash

    georgegash Newbie

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    Hey guys, I am quite new here and I love all of the information that has been presented here so far and want to thank everyone that has contributed to helping everyone along the way. I am currently spending 1-2 hours a night on SEO and have yet to start my campaign, however I am sure that I am not the first person to say that as I dig deeper into the world of SEO/Link Building/IM/etc. that with each day I have more and more questions to ask. Even though some of these questions are being clarified in the posts I have read, as a newbie there are some things that I do need to get a clearer picture on. So here I am, bombarding you with questions!

    1. PBNs! These seem to be the bread and butter of an SEO campaign and I have a few questions:

    - Does it really matter where you purchase domains from? That is, assuming that Domain A on one site is the exact same as another Domain A on another site, is there any reason why I should purchase of one site over another?

    - Hosting domains seems to be most appropriate when the hosting service is not for SEO purposes and is not $1 hosting (generally). Say I bought 10 domains, would it just be better to host these on different servers and save myself the hassle?

    - When hosting, should I am at not being lazy and creating different emails/identities for each site? Also, would this not be entirely useful if I am creating emails and identities off the same IP address?

    2. Link Building:

    - Do not include the same anchor text twice in the same site. Is this correct?

    - Say I have a site that is composed of three pages and each page has three small posts. What is a generally decent ratio of links per post, and links per page?

    - How often should I add links to $$ site not make G be suspect? Is one per day per page within PBN linked to $$ site more than enough?

    - What is confusing me the most at the moment: say I have 10 sites in my PBN linked to money site by keywords x, y, z. Should the content in these sites be related to keywords x, y, z, or is this not entirely necessary (or mildly necessary).

    - I’ve seen that you should also sporadically use no follow links to make your $$ site seem natural to crawlers. Is this correct?

    - Is it right to assume that purchasing links on the marketplace is a bit like fast-tracking your link building if you have the money?

    - Should my $$ domain be created on my own, OR should I purchase an expired domain with high TF/DA/CF/etc. instead? Probably obvious answer is the latter but just want to make sure.

    3. Keywords!

    - I am living in Sydney and certain keywords have higher competition than others, yet get a lower number of hits. Can someone briefly explain why keyword A has 20000 hits per month but has medium competition, whilst keyword B has 3000 hits per month but has high competition? Wouldn’t keyword A still be much more difficult to rank for?

    - Is there a decent number of searches to competition level ratio that any of you guys would generally follow?

    I am currently reading a book on SEO, and in the link-building section it gives a list of ways to garner links. Some of these seem to be quite labour intensive and in no way worth the time and energy if you are attempting to rank more than one site/keyword. Anyone that would like to share their opinion on the following by placing an N (little to no help), S (some help), H (high level of help) next to each link building technique, that would be awesome! :

    - Registering with search directories

    - Asking friends and family

    - Asking your employee

    - Contact association sites (clubs/associations you’re a member off)

    - Contacting manufacturer of product you want to sell

    - Submitting to announcement sites and newsletters

    - Finding sites that link to your competition

    - Asking other sites for links

    - Mention your site on forums

    - Promoting to blogs

    - Promoting offline PR

    - Syndication sites/syndicating your own content

    - Reciprocal links

    Also, whilst I am on this topic, I have noticed that some people spend hours upon hours developing a social network different accounts on networking sites. Is this truly effective? Surely this is less effective than standard link building through PBNs? Wouldn’t this leave a footprint that G can use to penalize you? Would you need to use a different IP for each site? Would you be friends with all your other accounts?

    Apologies for so many questions! It seems as though SEO is much harder now than it was say five years ago, so I am trying to absorb as much information as possible. Also, please let me know if you guys have any books that you would recommend regarding SEO! Thank you so much!
     
  2. georgegash

    georgegash Newbie

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  3. LinkSeller

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    About links:
    1) Do not use same anchor text in one page twice, in one site you can use one anchor text, but try to obviate duplicates.
    2) Best result: 1 page = 1 keyword, article must be about 1500 characters for 1 link, more links - more characters (+500-1000 characters for each next link)
    3) Number of links depends on the number of traffic on your site, you can buy some traffic (about 1k daily) and buy 10-50 links for day (dont forget, you must add google webmaster on your site for best monitoring and proper reaction for abuses)
    4) Necessary for Google
    5) Yes, it's calls behavioral ranking factors
    6) If you buy quality links - it will be fast, if you buy shit - it's kill your site :) For monitoring - google webmaster.
    7) Use not expired domains, if you are newbie, if you try to use expired domains you must work with past content of this domain (do not change content fast)

    Sorry for my English, it's not my native language
     
  4. georgegash

    georgegash Newbie

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    That's awesome thank you mate, this is some very good information. Regarding #2, is it really necessary that the article must be roughly 1500?? Is that not quite overkill for one page, especially if it is for a relatively simple keyword that you are trying to optimize? The reason I am asking this is because I plan to make my own articles, however if this is the case, I may as well pay someone to write the content for me! :D

    Also are you from Russia? I can speak fluent Russian :D :D
     
  5. TheSEOWizard

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    Ah! Your questions are too much and too long. Ok, I will try to answer a few:

    1) PBNs!
    a) I hope you mean registrar by mentioning site. If that is the case, then make your own judgement. It is regarded worthwhile to divide the domains amongst various registrars. Also, hide the whois or do you own tricks to remove footprints. ;)

    b) It is normally regarded that PBN on different high quality hosting instead of super cheap hosting is less riskier in terms of possible penalty in the future.

    c) Different C class IPs are advisable. So, do not use the same IP address for all hosting accounts. Emails etc. does not matter as only your hosting provider knows and not the rest.

    2. Link Building:

    a) Not on the same page but you can use on the same site. But try to avoid linking too much from the same PBN to a money site. It reduces both the effectiveness and is also a footprint.

    b) I prefer 1-2 links per page in addition to 1 authority link. But opinion always differs. I feel 5-6 links for the whole site is good enough for full utilization of a PBN.

    c) One every couple of days is fine. Later on, you can increase the link velocity. And mix up the links and anchor texts. Do not only depend on PBN and try more link diversity.

    d) Contextual same niche links at least within the post are always good.

    e) No need to send nofollow from PBN. Diversify with other platforms for nofollow. For example, a few comment links or some nofollow Web 2.0s.

    f) It depends. It is a marketplace. You find both good and bad stuff in a market. You need to check and filter out the good ones yourself.

    g) Both are good. But if you get a very good domain in your niche with clean backlink profile and very high stats, then it might be good too.



    3. Keywords!

    a) Where are you checking competition? If you are mentioning about Google Adwords Keywords Tool, then the competition there is advertiser competition and not related to actual competition based on top 10 ranks in Google SERP. You need some keyword tool such as Long Tail Pro or SEMRush to get an idea of the actual competition of those keywords. Anyways, neither of them are perfect. You need to manually check keywords for the top 10 results for the best idea.

    b) Not sure I understand what you are trying to refer to.

    d) Social links are good for social signals and even though they are nofollow they do help indirectly in SEO. They are recommended. No need to go overboard with those though. Keep them natural if possible.

    c)

    - Registering with search directories - N -- Niche directories are more worthwhile.

    - Asking friends and family - N .. helpful only if they are really interested and might help referral traffic

    - Asking your employee - N - same case above

    - Contact association sites (clubs/associations you’re a member off) - N - same as above

    - Contacting manufacturer of product you want to sell - N - same as above

    - Submitting to announcement sites and newsletters - S

    - Finding sites that link to your competition - S

    - Asking other sites for links - S-H - works but depends

    - Mention your site on forums - S-H - works but depends

    - Promoting to blogs - H - if it is a guest post and contextual link

    - Promoting offline PR - S

    - Syndication sites/syndicating your own content - N - that might instead risk penalty if you allow others to copy your articles

    - Reciprocal links - S

    Again these are not perfect scores. Everything in SEO depends on how it is used. If somebody has got great offline marketing tools, then there might not be much need of SEO even. So, everything is relative.
     
  6. georgegash

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    Thank you for this information mate, this has given me a better understanding of how I need to proceed with my PBN. Thank you :)