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Questions on Pyramids and Linkwheels

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by PandaDomo, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. PandaDomo

    PandaDomo Senior Member

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    Okay, so I'm well aware that "over-optimization" can penalize your site. However, what I want to know is, how many back-links do pyramids/linkwheels count for? For example, let's say a pyramid has 50 high pr web 2.0 sites that point to your money site. Then, 5,000+ back-links point to your web 2.0 sites. Does this pyramid count has just 50 back-links for your moneysite or does it count for the full 5,050+? If I used like 5 pyramid packages or something, then would I be around 250+ links or 25,000+ and thus be "over-optimized"? Also, how many back-links for a BRAND NEW site count as "over-optimized"? I'm aware that no exact number can be given since it depends on a lot of factors, however, what do you guys recommend out of experience?

    Also, on a side-note, why do people host on multiple accounts for the IPs? What is the amount of websites I should have linked to a single account then?

    Thanks for the help in advance :D
     
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    Endire Elite Member Premium Member

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    Hi PandaDomo,

    As with any suggestion about links, the typical disclaimer should be shared, "It depends", however, there are several types of links that you should consider using, this seomoz article outlines 17 of them.

    I share this because each link you produce will have some value, not sure it multiples, but the further away from your site the less authority is passed, but at the same time, you build authority over time to the web 2.0s, which pass all their authority to your main site.

    While I know you were speaking mostly about external link juice, here is a really cool write up about a tool, PageRank Link Juice Calculator, that helps you to uncover internal link juice information on your site.

    Let me know if this helps!

    Shawn
     
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  3. PandaDomo

    PandaDomo Senior Member

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    Thanks, although it didn't really answer my question, it still had a lot of information I needed anyway :D
     
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    ber789 Junior Member

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    Link velocity counts for a lot, if it is a new site then go very slow in the beginning and pick up over time. It is impossible to give numbers, you kind of have to experiment and see for your self. There are just too many factors involved. Also, if using exact match anchor text, you may run into problems if you are building hundreds of links.
     
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    It will only count for the 50 high PR web 2.0 backlinks you've created.

    BTW nice explanation @TheContentAutority
     
  6. PandaDomo

    PandaDomo Senior Member

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    Thanks, that's exactly what I needed :D Now, can anyone answer my question regarding hosting?