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Questions on PBNs

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by taketheride, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. taketheride

    taketheride Junior Member

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    If you use cheaper, but still decent domains for PBN sites, I feel that the hosting oftentimes seem more expensive than the domains themselves. So I was wondering, if using shared hosting from big providers, would it be possible to place several PBN domains on the same hosting account? Not all on the same of course, but just use more than one domain per hosting account, pointing to the same money site?

    How big is the difference in link juice provided from a PBN site with just 2 outgoing links (1 to money site and 1 for co-citation), versus say 10-20 outgoing links to different sites? And what is the difference from a security aspect (getting hit by google)?

    How many articles would you post on an average PBN site? I understand that more effort could be put in a high authority site that will provide great value, but what about small but decent ones? Is it worth writing 10 articles for a PBN site with weaker metrics and value? Or are these articles created to increase the link juice provided to the money site, and not to make it look more real and authentic?

    Any answers would be greatly appreciated :)
     
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    iJonnyx Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    For the domain prices, I don't pay more than the registration fee. If you look hard enough, you can find plenty of decent expired domains with TF 15+. Just use Xenu(It's free) to crawl the web to find these domains.

    In terms of hosting, google "Web hosting talk". Navigate to the "Shared Hosting Offers" and sign up to one of the $1 hosting companies. There are literally hundreds of them.
     
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    I don't use single hosting for my PBNs.I only used different shared hosting so that i get different IPs.That is a good strategy to hide the potential footprint from google and gain on the SEO benefit. I would say that 20 links on a page is way too much on a PBN ,i'd also support 1 to money site and 1 for co-citation strategy.
     
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  4. taketheride

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    The 1$ hosting option sounds good, but I heard something about them being assigned lower value in a recent Google update, or is that incorrect?
     
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    Yes cheaper hosting not as trusted. HG Godaddy hawkhost better than the cheaper for link value.
     
  6. taketheride

    taketheride Junior Member

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    Thank you for the detailed answer!

    Ok, so say you use 10 PBN sites for one shared hosting account, does all of them point to different money sites? So you never link to the same money site from a single hosting account, even if it's from different PBN domains?

    I understand how 20 PBN sites on 20 IP's linking to exactly the same 5 money sites would be a problem, but would it work better to randomize the linking a bit, for example:

    PBN site 1 -> money site 1 and 2
    PBN site 2 -> money site 1 and 4
    PBN site 3 -> money site 2, 4 and 5
    etc.

    Where did you find shared hosting that cheap? The ones I find can cost up to 10 dollars a month almost.

    Do you know of some other way to boost the value and link juice from a PBN site?

    And my last question is, do you think this structure would work for a PBN in order for it to be as safe as possible, for example to use this setup for clients:

    Say there are 3 different clients/money sites, and they have a PBN of 5 domains each. So I'll use a total of 5 different shared hosting accounts and the structure would look like this:

    Hosting 1 -> Client 1 PBN site 1
    Client 2 PBN site 1
    Client 3 PBN site 1

    Hosting 2 -> Client 1 PBN site 2
    Client 2 PBN site 2
    Client 3 PBN site 2

    Hosting 3 -> Client 1 PBN site 3
    Client 2 PBN site 3
    Client 3 PBN site 3

    and so on ?
     
  7. TeKn1qu3z

    TeKn1qu3z Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    For PBN use separate hosting with shared IP because they can give much link juice. Building links from PBN untarget niche also make worries.

    You can find better hosting for cheap on offers, try on blackfriday's.