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Questions and the real story of PNB links

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO Tools' started by djivan, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. djivan

    djivan Newbie

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    Hello,

    I bought "powerful" PBN links from BHW Market. Everything seemed rather dubious based on unverified claims. However, topics have existed for years. Inside them write hundreds if not thousands of users. Everyone boasts how these links are somewhat magical and ranks their pages very fast. Many shows graphs of results, etc. nonsense.

    Of course, the reality is completely different! PBN vendors force clients to post predefined replies inside their topics. In this way they mislead BHW moderators and administrators that they provide "quality services", their topics are on the top positions of marketplace, etc benefits. I will not bore you with all the scams of PBN services. They are really many!

    My question is:

    Is there a way to identify scam PBN networks? How to identify services with real quality? If such services really exist?

    For example, everybody promised permanent links from "high quality" niche domains. But at the same time they say:

    How to believe the report without the ability to see the links for which I paid?

    I already tried 3-4 "top quality" providers from BHW market place and the same story.

    • The promised links with DA-30-40+ are scrap links with DA between 0 and 15.
    • The permanent links are temporary links. They do not exist for more than a few days. A few days later "handwritten", "manually curated" article is full of links of other clients. There are no traces of the links paid for....
     
  2. perrymason

    perrymason Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Ask for samples and details regarding their business if they didn't provide what you paid for you can always contact a mod or open a shit list.
     
  3. Ghost Guy

    Ghost Guy Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Best advice i came across : Build your own PBN and dominate the Serps
     
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  4. djivan

    djivan Newbie

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    The samples are nothing. The scammers maintain 2-3-5 websites on which their show samples, but this doesn't guarantee that will receive the same quality. The samples are used only for misleading of moderators and some suspicious clients.

    As much I'm researching, the situation, as more think that is the only reliable solution. The rent links from 3rd party PBN is like shooting in the dark....You can hit the target if you are lucky, but you are more likely to fail.
     
  5. praetserge

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    Yeah, tried some of PBN's from the market place (for one-off payment):
    1. Those are generic expired domains with different metrics.
    2. The sellers will only pay for domains for 1 year and then domains will expire and your links will be gone.
    3. The sellers will try to sell as many posts as possible on those blogs, so with so many outbound links, your links will become of very low quality.
    4. They buy/write 1 low quality article, then spin it, takes a few seconds to spin an article.
    Conclusion: you get links from public link farms (Public Blog Networks). You should never point those links to your money site, no matter what reviews say.

    Solution:
    1. Monthly plan... you pay monthly, so the seller will renew domain. You may even get home page links, where the seller will post 10 articles on the home page and close the domain for others, thus, your links will stay and you pay monthly.
    2. Create your own Private Blog Network (it's a pain but doable).
    3. You can create web2.0 blog network... a cheaper solution.
     
  6. arc323

    arc323 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP UnGagged Attendee

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    Here's my experience with buying PBN links from BHW and Legiit.

    1. Very few provide reports, understandably so. It does suck though, since you're spending money and not sure what you're getting.
    2. Because reports are not provided, we check Ahrefs to manage links. We don't know which vendor links came from.
    3. Links start falling off, sometimes in as little as one month. This happened to us recently and caused a big traffic drop.
    4. Because we can't track the source of links, we don't know which vendors to complain to.
    5. We are now sad.

    One big offender was on Legiit marketplace. We placed several orders with the vendor for the same site. Luckily he did provide a report. We found that he only had like 10 sites, and was just reposting to the sames sites. It created a bunch of extra work trying to track everything down and we just took the loss.

    I'm finding that it's best to develop relationships with other agency owners or even writers. We don't have many writer relationships yet but we're working on it. If you have a relationship with people who control sites, you can trade or pay for link placements. But we're still buying links in BHW and Legiit and hoping we don't get screwed too hard.
     
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  7. Rasi Wilsy

    Rasi Wilsy Registered Member

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    I believe in maintaining good relations with other agencies aswell atleast the links will be coming from legit sites.
     
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  8. Sweetrevenge

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    Why don't you build them youself or hire a VA to do much of the tasks required to create them ? That would be so much better for your website in the long run.
     
  9. wkcalvin

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    Don't waste your time and money, PBN is use less at all, at least useless for me.

    I have a website for my personal interest, I just bought 1 m link blast at 40 dollars and did on page SEO.

    6 Months later, it's DA rose from 0 to 24 now.