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[Question] Is It REALLY Possible To Rank Sites Without Backlinks? (Pure Whitehat)

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by BlackSeng, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. BlackSeng

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    To be frank, I really don't understand what Google wants. Build backlinks and they say you're 'manipulating the search engine'. Some even said backlinking is considered "Blackhat" (which, of course, isn't true and stupid).

    So is it possible if I were to create a wordpress blog, submitting new contents/posts every week, and rank without backlinks?

    Please don't reply with assumptions (e.g: I think it is possible.) such replies are non-constructive. It is better if those who manage to rank their sites without backlinks reply to this thread.
     
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  2. ikilledkenny

    ikilledkenny Junior Member

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    no, not for any worthy keywords
     
  3. mynameis940

    mynameis940 Power Member

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    Who said building backlink is blackhat?
     
  4. BlackSeng

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    Come on' guys, this is what I mean. Such replies are not constructive.

    You can give such "replies" but back it up with something... Jeez.

    Regardless, thank you for your insight and reply.
     
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  5. THUNDERELVI

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    Rank in Top 100 ? YES!
    Rank in Top 50? YES!
    Rank in Top 10? Maybe, if you know what you are doing!
    Rank in Top 3 (or top 5) ? NO! Unless it's ultra low competition, and in that case you also need to know what you are doing!

    P.S. Talking from experience, the 1st 2 cases are easy if you are not dealing with ultra competitive niches/keywords and do your on-site SEO perfectly! In the 3rd case, the results will vary with the keyword/competition, and in the 4th that is my belief with most of my tests!
     
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  6. black101

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    i have some medium keywords ranking in the top 20 without any backlinks, only social signals
    easy keyword, top 5 with only social signals as well
     
  7. ikilledkenny

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    brother, I don't know what you're looking for but ranking for any worthy keywords without links at all is not possible. and when I say rank I mean above the fold rank.
     
  8. Beven

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    Backlinks aren't blackhat lol.
     
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    are you kidding ? all social signals are Backlinks.

    yep it's possible if you have got authority.
    but without backlink a new site (even a blogger) won't rank.

    i was thinking about a way to do it (will start a {journey|case study} after i got some time )

    -=-
     
  10. THUNDERELVI

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    Social signals are backlinks after all :D
    I can not imagine how you can gain REAL social signals being in Top 20 unless you manipulate them (do them yourself).
    The only way is to promote your website in social networks.
     
  11. umerjutt00

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    No it is not possible. I kept posting new content on my site each and every day. At the end of 6 months, I was still not ranked for anything at.. You can get to the page 4 or page 5 but nothing below than that without any backlinks.
     
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    Yes, it's been done before. Why not search the forums/google before posting?

    You just make really good content, post on forums etc social signals and people link to you.
     
  13. ikilledkenny

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    Reading comprehension lvl: GOD
     
  14. THUNDERELVI

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    LOL, yet again for everyone to understand, social signals ARE backlinks!
    So are forum posts with your link in it or signatures!
     
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    No! In short, you can't. Show me at least a single site ranking for a medium competition keyword in top 5 of search engines.
     
  16. Tealover

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    You definitely may rank in top10 for low competition KW with good onpage and tons of social signals. But, from my point of view it's as blackhat as ranking with tons of backlinks. Moreover, social signals technically is links.
     
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    Ignoring social signals for a minute (yes, they are backlinks), I rank a lot of long tail keywords with no backlinks by getting the on-page metrics optimised. This works especially well when ranking on Yahoo because they seem to tolerate a higher keyword density and exact match domains. It still works with Google too.

    I'd recommend everyone building a new site to get it to rank WITHOUT backlinks before they build any. Why? Because then you know if your onpage is good before you waste time and money with links.
     
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    i have a blog with 50+ posts which rank many longtail keywords in dating niche, but not 0 backlink, less than 30 links total, all of those are blog comments and some high PR bookmarks, so maybe less competitive keyword, you can rank it with only Google+ and good on page SEO, you can rank No.1, but for some truely harsh keyword like viger, i dont think you can achieve that, let alone your new blog has very low authority.
     
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    If its low/medium keywords and you have very good onpage optimization,unique content everyday and social signals,yes its possible rank.
     
  20. ikilledkenny

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    never thought of that, very good way to know if your on page is good. +1
     
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