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Question For Expert PBN Builders

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by twilightofidols, Apr 24, 2014.

  1. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    So I've spent 6-7 hours scraping the web to find some expired domains with good backlink profiles. I've noticed a trend where I'll come across an expired unspammed domain that'll maybe have a total of 5 backlinks, but 2-3 D0 Follow PR 5 backlinks from high authority sites.

    Do you guys normally pass these over for sites with a more diverse profile or do you think these are worth investing in? I know how wildly inaccurate toolbar PR is, but I've heard that depending on the nature of the PR 5 a single PR 5 link could boost another to a similar page rank.

    Also I've noticed a lot of sites that were once legitimate, picked up for a foreign blog network, and have now been dropped but they still maintain a legitimate link profile (multiple PR 5's on authority sites) as the blog network owner did not add any additional spammy links to the profile. Strangely, whois doesn't show any drops.

    I dug a little deeper and also found that the sites the blog network linked out to are still indexed so I don't think the network was deindexed. Many of them have similar stats to the other sites I'm coming across less than 10 total links from unique domains. Should I take it as a red flag and run that they were picked up by a foreign network or do you think they carry any value still?
     
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  2. dennis727

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    I dont know if this will help or not, but here it goes.

    My rule of thumb is, if a domain has at least 2 backlinks that are equivalent to the domain's PR, given that the backlinks are not spammy, uses 'good' anchor texts, and are not easily removable (on deep pages), it passes my first test.

    Second test to see whether it had been picked up by some other networks is I would go to Archive.org, and see if the site still maintained its 'theme' throughout its existence.
     
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    What are you using to scrap for domains?
     
  4. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    Thanks for the input. These domains are all PR N/A as they had been dropped by their original owner years ago but maintain their PR 4/5 backlinks. The ones owned by foreign networks were also dropped years ago. So if I understand correctly you won't pick up anything used by another network even if the backlink profile was left unmolested? And that 10 backlinks or less wouldn't turn you away from purchasing the domain as long as they were quality links?
     
  5. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    Scrapebox/Xenu method with my custom footprints.
     
  6. dennis727

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    Nahhh, if they had been used by some other networks, I wouldn't bother picking them up. I want the domains in my network to be as clean as possible.

    10 backlinks or less doesnt really bother me as long as it has at least 2 quality backlinks that are not easily removed.

    Thats my 2c
     
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    I would tend to avoid domains that were previously used in a PBN... I can't imagine someone with a PBN that is performing well letting the domains go. That said, maybe they've lost interest, or made too much money already... however, I think in the significant majority of cases, the domains have become worthless to them, and therefore likely to you.
     
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    twilightofidols Power Member

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    These domains are around 20-30 PA/DA, and Domain/Page 3-4 Moz Trust. I have quite a long laundry list of things I check for. Usually if a domain fails one along the way I drop it. I might be a bit too nitpicky, but I don't want to waste tremendous amounts of time and effort on a weak network when there's some real gems to be had out there.
     
  10. Aussie

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    I ve lost domains in past as I forgot to mark auto renewal. So,it is possible. If it is still clean,you should use those.
     
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    I would say that if the previous PBN has dropped the domains it is probably for a reason and would prefer to go with "cleaner" domains with no history of being used for anything spammy.