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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by metalice, Dec 7, 2011.

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  1. metalice

    metalice Junior Member

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    hi,

    im new to scrape box and i read a few tut here and i have a few questions so if you can help me it will be great!
    im trying to get my first AA list.

    1. lets say , that in my nich i have 250 keywords , after scrape and organization. im taking them, add a few custom foot prints using the M button, im getting something like 250,000 keywords.
    im doing all the process. getting 3000 verified links from 50 diffrent domains and got my first 3000 links AA list.
    now, for the next day, i want to do this process again, but the problem is , i run out of keywords that are related to my nich. what im doing? picking random words?

    2. when im harvesting custom foot print , im getting many result ,
    worddpress , blogengine , movable type. now , when im using the fast poster , does scrapebox knows automaticly to post to all of them? because the custome foot print circle is marked and not worddpress circle or blogengine circle.

    3. any newbies advices will be great to hear. i really want to learn how to control this piece of software.

    thanks,

    Matan
     
  2. metalice

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    Bumby! :)

    some1? help? please?

    THANKS!!!
     
  3. cyrilchua

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    Hello:) first, regarding your question about getting more keywords, simply scrape any relevant keyword that you believe your comment will be relevent to(or if you are counting on AA list, it does not even have to be relevent at all). The thing is, a backlink is a backlink, and there should be no need for too much obsession regarding the relevance of the backlink to your site ( especially since AA blog comments are already not as valuable).

    The only time I'd think it'd be worth it to get content relevant links are for article backlinks and web 2.0 backlinks which are more valuable post panda as contextual backlinks.
    If you really must have keywords in your niche, just scrape for keywords in a niche similar to yours. (Eg: scrape shoes as a kw after scraping slippers).

    Regarding your second question about posting, as long as scrapebox supports that blogtype, it will attempt to post to it no matter what type of blog it is in your list. If it succeeds in posting, it will show. If not, then its a failure. The only thing I'd worry about there is when you have wordpress together with other blogtypes, which I am highly against when you are testing harvested list. Wordpress is the official platform for akismet afterall. I would not blast to wordpress sites without first knowing that they are auto approve or at least postable, in order to avoid the akismet ban.

    Hope that helps you for a bit at least :)
     
  4. metalice

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    hi cyrilchua,


    about akismet , what exactly they are ban? my proxy? the site im trying to post as a link?
    does google uses there ban list? does it have any effect for google?


    so as i can see from you second answer , its better not to scrape wordpress blog if i dont know that they are akismet free or AA. right?
    does movable type and blog engine dont have any plug in like akismet that i can get ban?

    thank you!
     
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    Hi again.

    To your first question, akismet as a matter of fact bans both. Here's what I gathered from a guide about scrapebox:

    *Akismet bans every ip and/or domain that sends more than 100 comments in 30 min to sites that have akismet plugin support. So this means that if you happen to spam to more than 100 wordpress blogs with akismet in 30 minute, that ip/domain is blocked from all akismet supported sites.

    Here's what I suggest you can do.

    1)Use public proxy if you are blasting to wordpress harvested sites if you want to preserve the private proxy from being blocked.

    2) When first posting to wordpress blogs, don't spam your money site or your most valuable backlink first. Post to a web2.0 or article backlink, or any other test sites that you least care about to gather your AA list. AA lists are usable on any sites of course.

    3)Harvest wordpress blogs separatedly from the list if you want to do blast to harvested sites directly.

    OR

    You can simply F-ck care everything I said and spam the hell much as you like for the sake of convenience( not recommened for money site, but feel free to do this to any of your tier links).

    This is because the sites you will get banned from are ONLY wordpress blogs that have akismet supports and not any other wordpress sites. I believe there are quite a lot of wordpress blogs without akismet that you can blast to even if you are banned, so no problem. The only downside is that quite a lot of high PR blogs that good webmasters care about usually will have akismet to protect themselves from spam, and by doing getting banned, the banned domain will be missing out on these potential sites for link juice. These blogs are usually moderated and good only for high PR manual commenting to money site though.

    To the other question about the platform akismet supports... It is a plugin so you will usually only find it in wordpress I believe. It can be hacked to support blogengine and movable type but they are usually very rare IMHO, so no need to hesitate when blasting to these platforms.

    Hope this clears up a bit more about akismet to you.
     
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  6. metalice

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    is there any way after you scrape to filter those sites that using akismet?
     
  7. metalice

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    cyrilchua , do you have any recommendation about connection and time out setting for 10 Mb internet connection?
    i think i should tweak my setting for better result.. i would love to here your setting.
    thanks!!
     
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    Everyone should test what are the best settings.

    Take a AA list and blast away with 10-20 connection.
    Reblast with more connections and compare.
    ~~~If you get same results or better, increase your connections and blast again.
    ~~~If you get lower success, decrease connection.
    *use the same list as a point of reference and the same source and number of private proxies.

    Adjust until you find the sweet point for you internet speed and vps/pc configuration.

    Cheers
     
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    you don't need keywords exactly related to your niche. for example: let's say your site is about weight loss. you could also use keywords related to exercise or body building or eating healthy but not specifically weight loss.
     
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    thanks mindmaster. good way. should thought about that myself :/

    i got 2 more questions... :)

    1. what do you think is "good" amount of links for a money site per day?
    i dont want to do too much and get google kicking me.

    2. with scrapebox, can you really get result? in seo way? beacuse there isnt much diversity.. only blogs.. and most of the links you are doing is to your tiers...
    what can you tell me from your testing?
     
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    To add on to mindmaster,

    Your connection should also be based on how good your proxy is actually. A very good number ofprivate proxies likes 5 to 10 can probably allow you to handle connections at 50 with ease and still attain high success posting rate. For public proxies, iKd say at least 100.

    Always set time out to maximum (90 seconds) to maximum successful posting results as sometimes proxies can be slow or the blog simply takes longer to load.

    I would highly suggest you optimise your network for scrapebox accord to this thread here. It is simply amazing how much gain you can get.
    BHWdomain/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/316358-howto-optimize-your-network-scrapebox.html
    (No credits for me here, do replace bhwdomain with bhw's own domain url as I can't post urls yet)
     
  12. metalice

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    thank you for that!
    should i buy private proxies or shared proxies? there is a big difference in the price. is there also a big difference in the result?
    is the ping to the proxies effects on the connections amount? i usually get a ping of 300ms , for 8 shared proxies that i bought.
     
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    It's a noticeable difference. You should invest in few private proxies and compare for yourself. In my opinion shared proxies are good but very slow comparing with private proxies. Just imagine that the other users who you share your proxies with are using those 24/7 with scrapebox commenting or even for scraping.
     
  14. metalice

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    hi,
    so i made a little bit more research ang got to general concept about this idea:

    1.senuke (only for money site to make tiers) -> taking senuke links and using scrapebox and making blog links and developing AA list -> from the AA list , taking only the high PR pages (not domains) and post my money site.
    2. using BMD with custome list to post money site + tiers.

    what do you think about that? should i see good result wiht that?

    thanks!
    Matan
     
  15. metalice

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    i would love to hear your opinions...
     
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    Hi. The plan itself sounds solid enough already. If your niche is not too tough to ranl, you should see it working. Just make sure you have link diversity and velocity.
     
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    what is the velocity your can recommend me? 100? 200? 1000? per day...

    try to break it in to numbers if you can..

    thanks!!
     
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    It is up to you to decide really.:Hereks some questions you can ask yourself..
    How long can you keep up a relatively high link velocity?
    How many links does your competitors have?