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Question about sandboxing?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by emil4008, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. emil4008

    emil4008 Junior Member

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    My main domain of my site is penalized, and it's deindexed and out of the serp. But my subdomains retain, they position where they were before. If my main domain is penalized it shouldn't be all of my sobdomains to be out of the serp too?
     
  2. Remington

    Remington Regular Member

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    I've often read that subdomains are treated as seperate sites by G. By what you say, there may be some truth to it.

    I have seen entire groups of subdomains get banned if they've really been pushing the envelope and basically rubbing G's nose in it (for instance by linking all the subs together in a massive way), but in normal cases it seems that one can indeed be banned while the others survive.

    The downside is that each one needs links built to it separately. This can get to sucking if you have 100 ideas for subdomains.
     
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  3. dannyhw

    dannyhw Senior Member

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    Is your main site deindexed entirely? Deindexed and sandboxed aren't the same thing. If it's just knocked out of the SERPs you have a lot less to worry about. Check with a site: query.
     
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    nexozeon Junior Member

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    If sandboxing, is a real thing, how come people do not do that to the competition? I am not saying to do that, but if it is possible, how could someone prevent it?
     
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    hw2006 Registered Member

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    don't know what you said
     
  6. dannyhw

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    It can happen but it's a really dumb idea. The competitor has to be new enough for the sandbox to happen and if they are that new they probably aren't a competitor. If you did actually have a brand new site ranking above you, they'd get knocked down for a few months then come back with the benefit of all those links you pointed at them.

    It's real but abuse isn't really a problem.
     
  7. emil4008

    emil4008 Junior Member

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    My main domain was penalized because i did something stupid when build backlinks and google caught that and i am sure it is penalized. But if my subdomains are not penalized can i expected my main domain to be indexed again and come back to its previous position in the serp. It's been a month since that happened.
     
  8. greenleaf4u

    greenleaf4u BANNED BANNED

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    I have got sandboxed some times and what i do is to update site and keep building backlinks....
     
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  9. dannyhw

    dannyhw Senior Member

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    It's not considered a penalty and the effect will wear off. There is lots of debate on how to speed up the recovery but nobody really knows. It does make sense to keep up with your SEO even though the rankings aren't there.
     
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    greenleaf4u BANNED BANNED

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    I agree just keep up building
     
  11. emil4008

    emil4008 Junior Member

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    Okay, one more question. I have some forum profile backlinks with anchor text, containing my banned domain link. I made a similar site with new domain with similar content like my penalized site, and i want to start doing seo to my new site. But is it safe to change the backlinks in my profiles with my new domain link and keep the same anchore text. Is it possible google to penalize my new domain too because these profiles are contained before that link of a banned domain?
     
  12. dannyhw

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    Yeah. Sandboxing isn't a ban or a penalty and it doesn't mean google is mad at you in any way. All that means is it will take a while before it gets its ranking back. But if you change the links and leave it without juice it won't come back ever.

    And yeah if you do the same thing to your new domain, the same thing will happen but not because of anything to do with your old one. This just happens with new domains. The best advice anyone can give is that more high quality links to your sandboxed page will help it come back quicker.
     
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  13. emil4008

    emil4008 Junior Member

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    These profile links are not the reason that google banned my domain. They are good backlinks. I just wanted to be sure that it is safe to replace my old domain in it with my new domain because i don't want my seo work to go in vain. I decide to drop my old site and concentrate to do seo on my new site and I think to replace all of my old backlinks with my new domain (where i can).
     
  14. dannyhw

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    You're not banned and profile links are not good by googles standard. They count, sure, but if you want to rank while you're sandboxed the quality of your links has to be really good. Meaning nothing you can achieve spamming. If you want to use them to rank on a new domain you've just got to be patient.

    http://www.seomoz.org/blog/googles-sandbox-still-exists-exemplified-by-gradercom

    Maybe that will help? I don't know.