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Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by boleklolek, Dec 15, 2016.

  1. boleklolek

    boleklolek Senior Member

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    So I purchased few domains which had 15+ tf etc. etc.

    I made the wordpress sites etc. etc. I blocked spiders with plugin spider blocker etc. etc.

    And after 2 weeks Im checking the sites again in majestic and they all have 0 trust flow

    So my questions is the sites "lost" its trust flow because Ive blocked majestic spider? Or it is me really unlucky and majestic decided they will lower trust flow of 10 of my sites just like that?

    All backlinks these sites had before I bought them still have those baclinks not even 1 is lost, so its wierd.
     
  2. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Blocking the MJ crawler on the target site should not affect the source of the links, so no your metrics should not change.

    Where did you buy these domains from? Perhaps the seller had them wired up for sale.
     
  3. boleklolek

    boleklolek Senior Member

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    ive found these domains myself.

    isnt it wierd that the moment I put wordpress on it and make real sites on them and block the crawlers they lose trust flow?

    And domain authority stayed the same same for pa and number of backlinks in ahrefs

    PS. also another thing Ive noticed majestic sometimes shows the link as deleted when in fact the link is live after checking it manually, wtf is wrong with this?
     
  4. bartosimpsonio

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    Majestic is blocked on a lot of sites and it is unable to check those. The stuff you describe happens all the time.

    Also since Majestic and Ahrefs are famous, a lot of people block them. So you can check your profile on a lesser known link checker like openlinkprofiler.org which is free and see whether the output really is different from Majestic. I bet it'll be way off. So you gotta average out both of 'em.
     
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    It's a basic question, but are you talking about the Root domain or the URL ?
    If URL, did you build the site on the ww or non-www.?
     
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    boleklolek Senior Member

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    I dont understand you now, before you said;

    Now you are saying

    I don't understand, so this shouldn't happen right? The lowering of trust flow on my sites right? I don't get it lol..

    Look at this example i bought domain at 2016-11-15 it had 23 pa, 7 da, 14tf, 20cf, 19rd , few days later Ive put wordpress on it blocked all crawlers etc.. made it legit looking now we have 15.12 and the site on www. verrsion has 0 TF 18 CF pa,rd,da the same.

    Last seen 25 nov 2016

    Root domain has 6 tf, 8 cf (I dont remember what it was before)

    Crawl Result: HTTP 403 Forbidden

    The other inner url still holds trust flow value tho (same as before)

    Can it be because when I created the site Ive defaulted it to non-www version and all trust flow was on www. and I changed it later ? I dont know if it was after 25 nov or not...

    And this is the case with almost all the domains I make pbns on lol

    Im talking about url and I explained it above
     
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    You didn't. I've seen so many people checking http://www.domain.com and finally rebuilding it on http://domain.com and then get worried as of why the TF has disappeared.

    Hopefully it's not your case.
     
  8. boleklolek

    boleklolek Senior Member

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    ive builded sites on correct version i checked multiple times
     
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    Then it just means your backlink profile was not as strong as you thought it was.

    Majestic killed a lot of Trust Flow lately. It included tons of PBN domains, spammy domains and subdomain (tumblrs, blogspot). If your domain was getting all it's weight from one of those domains the, it might be the reason.

    Shoot me the URL in PM if you want me or someone else to get more details.
     
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    Hi boleklolek,
    The date you mentioned when you checked your domains via majestic was 15th of November.
    Majestic updated its algorithm twice if I am not wrong after that because of which many domains lost their TF.
    I analyze many domains everyday being a PBN seller to maintain the quality and have observed many things. With my little experience may be this will answer your query :
    If let's say your domain had a backlink from other domain "x.com" which also had URL trust flow( check in backlink section of majestic. Backlinks have 2 parts one being domain trust flow and other being URL trust flow ) and the URL trust flow became 0 after the update then it would reflect on your main domain as well causing it to become 0 TF.
    Its my personal observation that Majestic calculates tf of a domain using the URL trust flow of backlink and not the domain trust flow.
    However its a suggestion that you should check the backlinks and if they are all live and passing juice( check their indexing as well ) to the domain you bought then you should not worry that much.

    If you have any other query or need help I am more than happy to help :)
    To keep your domain confidential you can send me a PM. I will try my best to help you.
    Cheers
     
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  11. boleklolek

    boleklolek Senior Member

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    so they are just updating alghoritm... you wanted to say they are fu**** up the metrics :) some of my sites are maintaing their TF or even getting higher and some of them loses it, I hope this majestic crap gets replaced as soon as possible
     
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    Two different things here :

    1) Blocking MJ from the target site. Does not affect your target Majestic stats.
    2) Blocking MJ from the sites that link to the target. Does affect stats.

    Sorry for the earlier confusion, should've made it clearer.

    As to your other questions: Majestic has had more than one such earthquake lately. I don't know what's up. Either lots of sites are blocking them, either their IP block got mass blocked, or they changed their formula again.... You may be aware that Majestic changed their formula a while back and had the world of domain name flipping go crazy with everyone getting lower metrics....
     
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    OP, check it with another tool and see what the other metrics look like. If that ONE metric on Majest is the odd duck then ignore it.

    -ThopHayt
     
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    With what tools? I dont know any other tools to check trust flow with besides majestic because its their own metric right
     
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    You are really overthinking it. There has been two BRUTAL Majestic updates since October, which globally lowered the TF of the sites by at least 4 good points. The last update has not even been announced, but what it did, at least from what I am seeing is, that it doesn't count backlinks marked as deleted for too long. They are no longer counted in the total TF of the domain for more than 1 - 2 days, previously it has been longer.

    And Majestic updates the metrics once a day, so yes, it will drop, then it will rise, then it will drop again and rise again and drop again and never rise again and so on. It's a volatile metric, so focusing on it way too much makes no sense. Don't be attached to the TF of your domains.