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Question about 301 redirect of expired domain

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by redpanty, Sep 25, 2016.

  1. redpanty

    redpanty Junior Member

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    Hi, I saw couples of expired domain. when I check them on the archive . org most of them have 301 and 302 redirected from the past and from the most recent screenshot.

    my question is.

    1. is that bad? if I saw a 301 or 302 redirect from the past or from the recent screenshot.
    2. should I avoid that kind of expired domain? if yes or no please explain so that I could understand it clearly.
    3. if the site was 301 or 302 redirected from the past. basically the juice was transferred to the other domain. so when I buy that expired domain and rebuild, will the juice will be back to the expired domain and I can past it to my moneysite if I build an article on it?

    Thanks
     
  2. WatchWho

    WatchWho Registered Member

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    The only thing that matters is whether or not the domain is on Googles "naughty list." Find out if it's been de-indexed. If not, you shouldn't have an issue with past redirects.
     
  3. redpanty

    redpanty Junior Member

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    Hi Watchwho, thank you for your reply

    what if the domain was not de-indexed? should I go for it?

    I just want to clear, if the exp-domain was 301 or 302 redirected before. the link juice will be back to the original domain? please enlighten me about this one because I am just new to this expired domain thing. Thanks
     
  4. WatchWho

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    The "direct" link juice will likely be gone but if it's not long expired, it may retain the domain authority, which is the important thing, in my opinion.
     
  5. redpanty

    redpanty Junior Member

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    what if the domain was 301 or 302 redirected and expired 3 to 5 years ago, does the juice is gone? means look for another expired domain?
     
  6. WatchWho

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    redpanty Junior Member

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    I put the expired domain and it says No valid URL submitted. lol
     
  8. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    As I have already told you on Skype. Fact that the domain was 301 redirected in the past has absolutely no effect on its functionality and strength now.
     
  9. Mak

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    I am noob - How to know if the site was de-indexed by google
     
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    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    It doesn't matter if it was deindexed or not. If the site hasn't been registered by anyone for a year it will never be indexed. Point is for it to be clean and it will get indexed no problem. Unless you are buying from auctions, there I wouldn't buy anything that's not in the index.

    Just go to google, add site:domain.com and see if it's indexed
     
  11. ekapek

    ekapek Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    It the expired domain doesn't have any penalty which unfortunatelly you can check only after registration, and it has some links related to your niche, it wil be still good for use as buffer site, but I think it will need some fresh links to bring results for yours money site
     
  12. Mak

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    You are saying that once the domain in de-indexed and one year passed by, it will never be indexed but at the same time, if its clean it will again be indexed.
    ???
     
  13. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I am saying, that if it has a penalty, it will not get indexed. If you know how to check the domains properly, you can rule out 99% of the penalized domains no problem. And those will get indexed without issues.
     
  14. Mak

    Mak Newbie

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    Done understood that
     
  15. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    If you want to work with expired domains and are unable to understand that, then that's like wanting to make equations while you don't know how much 2x2 is. So... you should do some more reading and learning on the domains before getting into that really. Otherwise you will waste a lot of money and your time.
     
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  16. Mak

    Mak Newbie

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    So, where do i start from ?
     
  17. Nargil

    Nargil Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    site:blackhatworld.com PBN domains
    site:blackhatworld.com expired domains
    site:blackhatworld.com penalized domains
    site:blackhatworld.com domain history check
     
  18. DineshRawat

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    if you have doubts dont buy
     
  19. djp371

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    Domains that were redirected are not bad because they are redirected for a valid reason unless they were redirected for SEO purposes.
     
  20. shadow2015

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    Let me try 1 more time.

    if a site is online for awhile, and the pages are index by G, and then the guy who owns it, give up the domain and no one buys that specific domain for a long period. its no point G keeps on indexing it. this will eventually be remove. and if this domain wasn't abuse by anyone and you rebuy this old domain. it will then index your new content (pages).

    however, if this domain was rape by some seo expert, its not even worth talking about indexing (or if G apply a penalty you will never index any new content on your newly purchased domain )

    this is what Nargil and Whatchwho was trying to explain.

    once you have gone through the domain via way back, and if there are no abuse on the domain and DA, TF, RDD are fine then is shouldn't be a problem.

    however, you were referring to a redirect 301/302, so why dont you check first where its been redirected to = I say this because, I saw a DN that was redirected 5x but closure look it shows
    abc.com was redirected abc.net nothing else.

    if you can follow the redirect and see where its been sent to (if its Chines, phama,porn etc then ditch it ), else you should be fine.

    if you put this domain on a Majestci SOE back link analyses, you will see values for root/sub domain, but not for the page (and the page is the one (to my understand) who pass the juice)