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Quality of expired domains with backlinks

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by alaltaierii, Dec 9, 2012.

  1. alaltaierii

    alaltaierii Supreme Member

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    I see a lot of expired domains(still indexed by google) with PA-50+, DA-50+, over 10k backlinks. Most of the backlinks are blog comments but there is still a lot of link diversity on some domains. Price is usually from $5 to $11 + 1 year renewal $9 for a domain like this. So, about $15-$20.

    From what I see, most of them are abandoned because of low keyword diversity - Penguin.

    Let's say I buy one domain, I put 1-2 unique articles fro my niche and place a strong backlink on the homepage for my money site.

    Is this "strategy" any good ? What is the value of a "strong domain" after is expired ?
     
  2. dudelive

    dudelive Newbie

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    I have bought a few domains that went idle 3-5 years ago and after a year all the bad links have faded away and all have pagerank now. I made a clean website and drip fed 1 article a week. That's all I did.Hope that helps.
     
  3. masterjani

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    you can always choose the domains, which are having high age and medium level backlinks. Because if the site is affected by penguin then it is hard to diversify the backlinks, especially when backlinks are over 10K.
     
  4. seoactive

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    This is an interesting topic. I look forward to other inputs on this as well. I have read about transferring PR with expired domains, but yeah..how does transferring backlinks work in theory.. i wonder.
     
  5. wMercw

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    Hmm that would actually be a great investment but I need to do a bit more research.
     
  6. alaltaierii

    alaltaierii Supreme Member

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    I agree with you with high age domains but I don't really care about the number of backlinks since I don't want to rank with that site. I just want to use it for 1-2 strong homepage backlinks to my sites. Are you saying that I should be careful placing my money site on penguin affected domains ?
     
  7. dgthiyagu

    dgthiyagu Regular Member

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    Where do u search for the expired domains...?
     
  8. aldis

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    expired domain can be used if they possess good authority, quality links and good pr
     
  10. masterjani

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    exactly, most of the time penalties are transferred from old to new domains. so, better to choose the domain with medium level backlinks.
     
  11. Moriarty79

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    I bought 5 deleted domains that I found on expireddomains.net about a month ago. I installed Wordpress on each of them and waited to see if Google would index them. At this point, only 1 of the 5 is indexed. The other 4 return no results for a site:www.domain.com search.

    I bought each domain after checking it out in Majestic SEO and finding that it had a decent number of backlinks and that they looked reasonable quality rather than just blog comment spam.

    So, is it likely that those 4 had actually been deindexed by Google before and they are still on some kind of blacklist? How can you know before you register the domain? Obviously none of them will be in Google's index before you buy them as they have been deleted and just give a DNS error. If I am only going to get a 1 in 5 success rate even with checking them out in Majestic SEO for signs of previous abuse then this is quite hard.

    My motive here is to build up a private blog network using the previous domain owners' link building efforts to get PR. It seemed a good idea in theory.
     
  12. _Chip_

    _Chip_ Senior Member

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    Nothing beats building natural PR and authority on a fresh domain. Playing with expired domains may always be fishy in g's eyes.
     
  13. jkwilson78

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    It's really hit or miss because it's hard to tell which backlinks have been penalized/discounted by Google and which haven't. If they mostly have blog comments then chances are a lot of those links have been toasted. One of the first things I check for is the anchor text. If a lot of the links have non US anchor text (for u.s sites) or a lot of common spam words (pharma, adult, gambling, make money, etc) then I don't look any further into the quality of the backlinks.

    The potential diamonds in the rough are the ones that have relatively natural anchor text (the site/brand name, click here, etc) and diversified backlinks sources. There may be some blog comments or article directories, etc but they don't make up 90% of all the backlinks and they have links from related/common sense sources they match the topic of the expired domain.

    Next, you can check the backlinks for the number of outbound links. Sometimes you will find a domain that has some decent blog comment links that have few outbound backlinks. Most will have 50+ OBL though (it's not uncommon to find them with 1000+ OBL)

    Don't misunderstand, this kind of expired domain is what EVERYONE is trying to find and rarely do they meet all the criteria above but those are the things I look out for. You'll wade through a sea of junk to find these let alone actually win the auction/buy it.
     
  14. Nicke011

    Nicke011 Newbie

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    Someone took my expired domain and now selling it for $250 -.-
     
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    I've bought a load of expired domains from expireddomains.net. All have PR as n/a when intially hosted. After submitting a sitemap to google, site got indexed...PR comes back within a few days.
     
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    I bought 5 domains and checking it now, so after i see how it will work i will update this thread.
     
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    Yeah its a Good Way to Get the link juice go for it.
     
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    same here, probably one of best, it has a lot of info about domains..
     
  19. alaltaierii

    alaltaierii Supreme Member

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    Update:

    I bought a PR1 Domain, 2 years old, DA-43 / PA-52
    Over 220k backlinks according to majesticSEO(attached pics)
    Links quality ? Well, this site is spamed as hell with scrapebox + few quality backlinks, pyramids etc
    Anchor text diversity: 5 keywords = 50% off total number of anchor text. The rest are related keywords. I didn't see many generic kw.
    I think the site was hit by penguin but it's almost related to my niche. (hair loss)

    So, my question: Is it safe to write a quality article and put a homepage backlink to my money site ?



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