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[Q] Ranking On 1st page But..

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by roxiea90, Jan 5, 2012.

  1. roxiea90

    roxiea90 Power Member

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    Hello BHWer,
    i was search new keyword just now and found a keyword around 5k per month..
    What i see the first 10 results are all site like amazon, ebay, nextag..

    Is it hard to rank if there are 6-8 site like that on top 10 Google results?
    hope you answer..:)
     
  2. john klyne

    john klyne Newbie

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    presumably not hard...but im no expert : ) best to have an expert answer.
     
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  3. umairsheikh2002

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    Is it product related keyword?
     
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  4. morehits

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    Well, you really need to find out how well optimized those top 10 sites are. If you can get an exact match domain for that keyword then that gives you a big advantage.
    I suggest to get Traffic Travis or Market Samurai software. You can download it free from this forum. The software will tell you how difficult it will be to rank in the top 10. That's all you need to know.
     
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    shoot me the keyword and ill take a look.
     
  6. cyrilchua

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    Hey man, if you want to check the competition out yourself, here's my guideline for you:
    1) Check number of backlinks to the top ten pages for that keyword. (Not to the domain, but to the page)
    2)Check the PR and anchor text of top 5 pages.
    3) Check number of competing pages by typing it in phrase and noting the numbers.
    4)Check if front page's pages all have the keyword(especially if its in exactly order)
    5) This is important, but I bet most don't do it. Check page 2 to see if you can find affiliate sites that are actually good. By good I mean have high number of backlinks (or at least comparable to page 1),with good anchor text and pr, kw in title, kw in domain or subdomain and stuff like that. If there is.. Something is wrong, and its happened before.

    Try using market samurai or traffic travis to hasten the process. Generally if the backlinks' numbers aren't that high and emd is available.. It's almost instant win. Just be sure you checheck 5)
     
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  7. MeetTheVirus

    MeetTheVirus Regular Member

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    I have actually found niches where your competition is mostly taken up by sites like amazon, ebay, etc. are really easy to break into first page. Its the IM'ers with the EMD's and crazy backlinks that you have to watch out for..
     
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  8. roxiea90

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    yes it is a product related keyword and they (amazon, ebay and so on) are on top 10 G..

    Ooh i see.. thanks @morehits.. so EMD site give some advantage on ranking.. ok i will check using Traffic Travis

    oh thanks a lot @cyrilchua for the steps.. i will use it to check on each of my niche..

    ya because my older niche are tested and the SERP are dancing, thats why im just curious about the amazon and similar site.. im just thinking that im lacking of something ..

    But now i know, thanks to all that helping me..
     
  9. Zelthcon

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    No disrespect to anyone on this forum but I would not trust giving the keyword to anyone at all incase they take it from you, EMD with 5k searches per month is pretty amazing to be honest, I personally do not think it will be hard to out rank them with an EDM, Go for it regardless and even if you're unable to manage, then just sell the domain for money, EDM with 5k+ searches, someone will buy.
     
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    sounds like it would be easy to rank for, but do more analysis before coming to a conclusion. Analyze each page that is ranking and see if there is large amount of backlinks to them. How established are the pages and what is their pagerank.
     
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  11. roxiea90

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    thanks so much @Zelthcon.. :)


    Again thanks for remembering.. almost forgot that the competitor PR are important too :)
     
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  12. markhenry121

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    If your keyword is relevant to the product that you can get easily top 10 ranking.
     
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  13. roxiea90

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    ok thanks im in task with it.. hope to see a good result
     
  14. Busrunner

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    does.the backlink module of MS still work now that Yahoo is gone? I thought it was pretty much dead.

    Zelthcon: 5k searches ia far from a lot.. But I agree you shouldn't share it.
     
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    Market samurai changed to using majestic seo for backlinks some time ago. How reliable that is, I cannot confirm though. So yes, backlinks module should be working.
     
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    Whatever it be... tough or easy... all the best for your project.
     
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  17. markhenry121

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    Of course dear you got a better result whatever you done.:)
     
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  18. nomirock

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    your content should be ultra targeted
     
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