Putting Linkpushing to the test - Watch and Learn!! disclosing URL as well!!!

nundinator · Jun 15, 2011

wannabie said:
Chuck your results up then

YOur check google.com right? What are you using to check?

I just ask you fade out the keywords as I don't want to spoonfeed some lurker

Looks good so far. The only thing wrong that might be wrong with the test . . .

I know it's a new domain that you just registered, but it's actually got some history . . . 6 years old and went through an auction a year ago for $40 when it was supposedly sitting at position 2 or 3 for "Remedy Dandruff" at that time.

Anyhow, I'm not saying the test is invalid, just that the domain isn't "brand new" . . . it's still not had any action for a long time and Majestic SEO lists no backlinks from before your test, so please know I'm not calling "foul."

Keep it up!

prismkuet · Jun 15, 2011

Nice posting. May be helpful...........

wannabie · Jun 15, 2011

I did notice that old flippa auction from a year ago, but there is nothing in wayback machine and as you say Majestic shows no backlinks so this test is not flawed at all. Google would treat this as a brand new domain so I am happy to carry this study as a new domain!

I didnt have to back order or anything at all so its definatly a domain with no aged SEO value at all

I wish google would have showed that flippa auction when I googled the domain but nevermind

Would you send me your MS file for it at all?

wannabie · Jun 15, 2011

JuliaG1 said:
I was not trying to put down your thread at all I love that you are doing this case study. Just giving my insight on what happened for me. I am impressed it is working well on your new site.

I understand that

I just prefer to nip things in the bud before they start

pietpatat · Jun 15, 2011

IMHO you picked a horrible keyword for this test.

Yes you can get #1 for all your keywords very easy in google.com ( I assume this is where your going for ). But that's only because the keyword 'dandruff' and all the subkeywords are mainly searched in: India, Philippines, United Arab Emirates & Singapore ( http://www.google.com/trends?q=dandruff&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 ). And the competition in google.com is very low ( most sites in the top 10 for 'dandruff treament & 'dandruff remedy' have less than 100 backlinks to that page).

I'm very interested to see how many visitors and how many $ you will make from this site. And I think the real question is; will this site produce more than $97 a month ( the cost of the 12 linkpushes each month ).

nundinator · Jun 15, 2011

pietpatat said:
IMHO you picked a horrible keyword for this test.

Yes you can get #1 for all your keywords very easy in google.com ( I assume this is where your going for ). But that's only because the keyword 'dandruff' and all the subkeywords are mainly searched in: India, Philippines, United Arab Emirates & Singapore ( http://www.google.com/trends?q=dandruff&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 ). And the competition in google.com is very low ( most sites in the top 10 for 'dandruff treament & 'dandruff remedy' have less than 100 backlinks to that page).

I'm very interested to see how many visitors and how many $ you will make from this site. And I think the real question is; will this site produce more than $97 a month ( the cost of the 12 linkpushes each month ).

IMHO, you're missing the following facts:

1. People in the countries you listed above also have dandruff and they need information about dandruff treatments, just Americans . . . why would you eliminate a site just because it gets foreign traffic? I don't care where the traffic is from as long as I can monetize it.

2. Google Keyword Tool still lists 201,000 local monthly searches for US/English on the term "dandruff." I'll take ranking for a term with that volume any day.

3. Google lists the approximate CPC for "dandruff" as $2.28. If he only gets to 1,000 visitors per month, that's around $2,000 of free traffic. I'm guessing that a #1 ranked "remedy dandruff" alone will get him several hundred.

4. The question of this test (as far as I can tell) is whether or not LP will sandbox the site and, if not, how well the site will do with LP alone . . . the test, in my understanding, has nothing to do with how well he can monetize the traffic. Monetization is a topic for a totally different thread.

wannabie · Jun 15, 2011

nundinator said:
IMHO, you're missing the following facts:

1. People in the countries you listed above also have dandruff and they need information about dandruff treatments, just Americans . . . why would you eliminate a site just because it gets foreign traffic? I don't care where the traffic is from as long as I can monetize it.

2. Google Keyword Tool still lists 201,000 local monthly searches for US/English on the term "dandruff." I'll take ranking for a term with that volume any day.

3. Google lists the approximate CPC for "dandruff" as $2.28. If he only gets to 1,000 visitors per month, that's around $2,000 of free traffic. I'm guessing that a #1 ranked "remedy dandruff" alone will get him several hundred.

4. The question of this test (as far as I can tell) is whether or not LP will sandbox the site and, if not, how well the site will do with LP alone . . . the test, in my understanding, has nothing to do with how well he can monetize the traffic. Monetization is a topic for a totally different thread.

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wannabie · Jun 15, 2011

pietpatat said:
IMHO you picked a horrible keyword for this test.

Yes you can get #1 for all your keywords very easy in google.com ( I assume this is where your going for ). But that's only because the keyword 'dandruff' and all the subkeywords are mainly searched in: India, Philippines, United Arab Emirates & Singapore ( http://www.google.com/trends?q=dandruff&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 ). And the competition in google.com is very low ( most sites in the top 10 for 'dandruff treament & 'dandruff remedy' have less than 100 backlinks to that page).

I'm very interested to see how many visitors and how many $ you will make from this site. And I think the real question is; will this site produce more than $97 a month ( the cost of the 12 linkpushes each month ).

You have completely missed the point of this thread to be honest!

nundinator · Jun 15, 2011

wannabie said:
I did notice that old flippa auction from a year ago, but there is nothing in wayback machine and as you say Majestic shows no backlinks so this test is not flawed at all. Google would treat this as a brand new domain so I am happy to carry this study as a new domain!

I didnt have to back order or anything at all so its definatly a domain with no aged SEO value at all

I wish google would have showed that flippa auction when I googled the domain but nevermind

Would you send me your MS file for it at all?

True about Wayback . . . also, it's probably stupid of me, but I didn't know that Google would treat a domain as new even though it had IP/NS history . . . makes sense I guess. I shouldn't have brought it up if that's the case . . . :baby09:

Also, PM sent.

wannabie · Jun 15, 2011

nundinator said:
True about Wayback . . . also, it's probably stupid of me, but I didn't know that Google would treat a domain as new even though it had IP/NS history . . . makes sense I guess. I shouldn't have brought it up if that's the case . . . :baby09:

Also, PM sent.

I wouldn't say it's stupid at all, if I had noticed that flippa auction from last year I would have most likely ignored that domain but as it happens I don't think it would have SEO value considering I just walked up to namecheap and brought the domain like any other domain!

olimix · Jun 15, 2011

Why you don't answer the question about how many backlinks you push each time or daily ? don't get it .
I dont care what service you are using but without any numbers of backlinks you send , i don't see any interest for this post ...

TNphoneman · Jun 15, 2011

olimix said:
Why you don't answer the question about how many backlinks you push each time or daily ? don't get it .
I dont care what service you are using but without any numbers of backlinks you send , i don't see any interest for this post ...

If you would bother to do a little research you will answer your own questions. You should care about the service he is using because that is where the links are coming from.

You were told in this thread that there were 12 linkpushes. Now go out and figure out what a linkpush is. You will find a link to it here in this thread.

Don't try to put down someone's testing method unless you know what the hell you are talking about.

wannabie · Jun 15, 2011

TNphoneman said:
If you would bother to do a little research you will answer your own questions. You should care about the service he is using because that is where the links are coming from.

You were told in this thread that there were 12 linkpushes. Now go out and figure out what a linkpush is. You will find a link to it here in this thread.

Don't try to put down someone's testing method unless you know what the hell you are talking about.

What he said

darrensss · Jun 15, 2011

Hey Wannabie, Good Job!
Really looking forward to see how this pans out and if google panda 2.2.2.2.2.2 has any effect on it?

About the 12 LP's you signed up for ... did all 12 target the same kw and all at the home page? or did you select 12 kw's (one for each LP) and then target a different inner page for each push?

Im thinking about signing up for some LP's but i really want to target just one kw on my home page? and im not sure if this will be too much and possibily raise a red flag to Google?

Nato1 · Jun 15, 2011

nundinator said:
IMHO, you're missing the following facts:

1. People in the countries you listed above also have dandruff and they need information about dandruff treatments, just Americans . . . why would you eliminate a site just because it gets foreign traffic? I don't care where the traffic is from as long as I can monetize it.

2. Google Keyword Tool still lists 201,000 local monthly searches for US/English on the term "dandruff." I'll take ranking for a term with that volume any day.

3. Google lists the approximate CPC for "dandruff" as $2.28. If he only gets to 1,000 visitors per month, that's around $2,000 of free traffic. I'm guessing that a #1 ranked "remedy dandruff" alone will get him several hundred.

4. The question of this test (as far as I can tell) is whether or not LP will sandbox the site and, if not, how well the site will do with LP alone . . . the test, in my understanding, has nothing to do with how well he can monetize the traffic. Monetization is a topic for a totally different thread.

what are you talking about?
"remedy dandruff" gets 28 in words twenty eight exact searches a month...now tell me again how much that is worth.
the term "dandruff" gets 22.000 not 200.000...22.000 is still good, but why try and bullshit people??? i am still interested in the op's result but please keep it real! good luck with your test wannabie.

gbmack · Jun 16, 2011

nundinator said:
IMHO, you're missing the following facts:

1. People in the countries you listed above also have dandruff and they need information about dandruff treatments, just Americans . . . why would you eliminate a site just because it gets foreign traffic? I don't care where the traffic is from as long as I can monetize it.

2. Google Keyword Tool still lists 201,000 local monthly searches for US/English on the term "dandruff." I'll take ranking for a term with that volume any day.

3. Google lists the approximate CPC for "dandruff" as $2.28. If he only gets to 1,000 visitors per month, that's around $2,000 of free traffic. I'm guessing that a #1 ranked "remedy dandruff" alone will get him several hundred.

4. The question of this test (as far as I can tell) is whether or not LP will sandbox the site and, if not, how well the site will do with LP alone . . . the test, in my understanding, has nothing to do with how well he can monetize the traffic. Monetization is a topic for a totally different thread.

So. Much. FAIL

1. Dandruff only gets 40,000 exact searches per month globally, and 20,000 exact searches locally. But that doesn't even matter because the top 10 results for the term "dandruff" are competitive.

2. Even if the OP tries to rank for "how to get rid of dandruff," he doesn't have an EMD. The onsite optimization is horrible too.

3. This site will never even get 100 visitors per month unless it's changed drastically. Also, the cpc for dandruff is $2.... and so what? Do you really think every visitor is going to click on the adsense ad?

Tips to the OP, you have to keep writing content... Your last post was a few weeks ago. And optimize your h1, descrip tags, etc. You really need an EMD as well... Consider keyword density too.

pietpatat · Jun 16, 2011

nundinator said:
IMHO, you're missing the following facts:

1. People in the countries you listed above also have dandruff and they need information about dandruff treatments, just Americans . . . why would you eliminate a site just because it gets foreign traffic? I don't care where the traffic is from as long as I can monetize it.

2. Google Keyword Tool still lists 201,000 local monthly searches for US/English on the term "dandruff." I'll take ranking for a term with that volume any day.

3. Google lists the approximate CPC for "dandruff" as $2.28. If he only gets to 1,000 visitors per month, that's around $2,000 of free traffic. I'm guessing that a #1 ranked "remedy dandruff" alone will get him several hundred.

4. The question of this test (as far as I can tell) is whether or not LP will sandbox the site and, if not, how well the site will do with LP alone . . . the test, in my understanding, has nothing to do with how well he can monetize the traffic. Monetization is a topic for a totally different thread.

The point I was trying to make was that in most cases it isn't smart to focus a US site on a keyword that get searched mostly in the countries that I listed.
1. Because it's harder to rank in google.ph with a .com site since google will favor .ph sites.
2. People who search dandruff on google.ph will most likely pick a site in their native language than an english site.

The 2 people above me already responded on the cpc & monthly searches point

But again I'm interested to see if the site will pull in a decent amout of traffic, and if it will not only will rank on google.com but also on google.ph.

pietpatat · Jun 16, 2011

wannabie said:
You have completely missed the point of this thread to be honest!

Well if the point of this thread is what nundinator is talking about than it is pretty misleading. It's like saying; Hey guys look linkpushes work! It got my site ranked #1 for 'dandruff treatment'
Without saying the keyword has no competition because it barely gets searched.

wannabie · Jun 16, 2011

I'm really not sure on why you guys do not grasp the idea that this site was not set up for being the next big thing?
I have never once claimed lp will get the site to #1 as this is a test just to see what lp will do to a new site on a basic wordpress set up - this is not a sales thread and to be honest i have been a bit un fair to lp as I have only done half hearted attempts of on page stuff!

As I said before, this site was set up as a lazy Seo and pretty much rushed (like 90% of the people in the webmaster niche)

I won't be updating the site as I have no intrest in it, ok the first page should have summaries rather than full posts but I haven't had time to play around with it!

This thread is a watch and see, do you think I'm going to spend loads of money and then show you guys the URL? No not at all!

This is a test to see what happens, nothing more, forget about adsense and work out how to twist what you get from this thread to your own advantage

I'll probably give this site away in a couple of weeks as I won't have an intrest after this thread

I actually think lp has started to do a bloody good job considering it's having to work on a half hearted attempt of a site and that is the purpose of this thread, see what it does!

darrensss · Jun 16, 2011

hey wannabie ... can you give me your thoughts on this please?

darrensss said:
Hey Wannabie, Good Job!
Really looking forward to see how this pans out and if google panda 2.2.2.2.2.2 has any effect on it?

About the 12 LP's you signed up for ... did all 12 target the same kw and all at the home page? or did you select 12 kw's (one for each LP) and then target a different inner page for each push?

Im thinking about signing up for some LP's but i really want to target just one kw on my home page? and im not sure if this will be too much and possibily raise a red flag to Google?

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