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Put up a hotspot named "FREE FAST WIFI" on airport?

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  1. Sindragosa

    Sindragosa Regular Member

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    The twist would be to force the user to download an app in order to be able to use the wifi. Would this be possible to do? Simple hotspot + CPA/CPI.

    At least in my experience there are a lot of airport with worthless shitty slow wifi, but I guess that's what happens when there are so many users on it even if the airport got 1 gbit/s internet.

    If I would share a 100/100 hotspot I guess that it could only hold max 100 people before getting unbearably slow. And not to mention if someone starts downloading shit on the connection, that would require me to limit the speed for each user, right?
     
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    How much does each app install pay? It seems like this would become a headache really fast.
     
  3. Sindragosa

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    It would of course be automated. Each app install usually pays $0.2-1.
     
  4. flowywood

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    It's not a bad idea for other locations, i would not want to be loitering in airports nor leaving a device unintended. You would be attracting the wrong attention atleast in western countries. As far as the idea technically you would have to allow access to google play for people to download your app to begin with, it would be much simpler to do if it was just webpage. And i don't know if its a problem if all your signups come from the same ip.
     
  5. Sindragosa

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    That I did not think about, could be a big issue. Could be solved by only allowing email submits instead of CPI or would the IP still be a problem?
     
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    The IP is still going to be an issue with 99.9% of the CPA networks BUT you can run the idea past your AM, explain that the IPs are going to be the same and see if he or she can work with that knowing your method/strategy.
     
  7. Divination

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    Do you have unlimited data? It could work in malls and stuff too if you do it right. Places that don't have free WiFi already, and places that people stay a lot (for example, outside of a ladies store where all the husbands pile up).
     
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    Really cool idea! Now that's what I call thinking out of the box.
    But it wouldn't be good if you had to stay there. If you could leave it there that would be amazing. Just set it up in 10 different locations I'm sure you will get atleast 50 installs a day
     
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    And maybe have them do a app install per 50mb used or something like that
     
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    Maybe do the same near a very popular pokespot or gym , it will definitely be worthwhile
     
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    I might actually try this. My parents are getting a new router so i will have an extra one. Hardest part will to get it to work. (after they download they get access)
    Then i will contact cafes that dont have free wifi for their customers and ask them if they would like it. It wouldent cost them anything. I think that would work well because whenever i go to a cafe or restaurant i always go on my phone. And i always see others on their phones
     
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    Fucking with federal wifi is a bad idea even if your spoofing it. Illegal and security issues will get u busted real quick. Don't do it. This is hacking
     
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  13. KurtG

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    I agree with Bluedanger's post above. This is a very grey area you are looking to get into, more towards black area since this is concerning a major transportation hub, such as an airport. Your idea is great, however, I would certainly not be messing around with an airport, especially now since we live in the post 9/11 world where everything is considered a security threat to the country. Try a mall better. Leave the airport alone, it will only kick you in the butt at the end, in my opinion.
     
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    most people wont want to download a game on their 3g. Some dont even have 3g. So you would have to grant them wifi so they can download it.
    Maybe allow the wifi for a couple minutes. But it would also be hard to set it up so it gives them more time after they download.
    If the cafe/restaurant recieves 100 customers per day.
    Maybe 5 offers will be completed
    Thats around $2.50 - $5 per day.
    Thats 75-150$ per month.
    minus $25 per month for internet.
    Thats 50-125 per month.
    Set it up in 20 locations
    Thats $1000-$2500.
    Then just scale even more to 100 locations ($5000-$12500)
     
  15. flowywood

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    If you don't have unlimited data, you can just throttle the connection after they completed the offer based on the mac address. Most people will just give up. Can probaby run this on a raspberrypi and usb modem stick.
     
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    I saw this method last year on another forum. This guy got a pineapple wifi (google it) and set it up at hotels, fast food places, things like that. Airport is a good one as it too has high density of traffic.
    I was in one airport overseas, and their wifi was locked with a paywall. Never seen that at a hotel/fast food joint, so I think people would be used to it there.
    Anyway, he claimed it was super profitable with content lockers locking access to a wifi connection.
    Just talk to your AM first because of the IP issue BTB mentioned.
     
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  17. Capo Dei Capi

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    I would go one step further and suggest that before even doing this method to at least talk to a local lawyer to get an idea of its just something like a civil fine or a criminal sanction from it.
     
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    I already saw it on Airports. Madrid has it this way. I think its their official partner. Although it seemed very filthy to me.
     
  19. Sindragosa

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    I will talk to my AM and see what he has to say about this.

    Of course this would be done on a 3G / 4G connection with unlimited data.

    I like the idea too :) Especially since it's very possible to make it fully automated. In theory I think it's easy to earn a passive $100 a day from this. Or scale it up around the world and make it $1k a day. $10k. $20k. $50k :O

    Yeah, I would let them use a few hundred megabytes or after an hour or two and then force them to install an app again which they most likely will do if the internet I provide is fast and stable.

    That would probably not work because people who go to a pokestop already have an internet connection, otherwise you wouldnt' go there, would you?

    Please do this and report back on how it went!

    I'm not fucking with federal wifi. I would use my own 3G / 4G connection.

    Doubt anything would happen but yes I would probably ask the airport first before I start investing time and money in this project.

    I'm pretty sure getting an unlimited data plan would be to prefer in this case. I will have to throttle the connection to an extend for every user even if I have unlimited data.

    Thank you very much, pineapple wifi seems very interesting. Would it be possible for you to link the thread that you saw last year about this topic?

    Yea, I probably will have to ask a round before I start doing anything.

    Ah, I thought this was an original idea by me :(
     
  20. flowywood

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    the idea has been posted on here actually
    hxxp://http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/old-method-new-pineapple-twist.839582/
     
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