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Put country in page title or not?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by myopic1, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. myopic1

    myopic1 Regular Member

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    A question for the SEO experts out there who actually know rather than guess the answer to this question...

    Say I'm targeting a search term like 'Chocolate radiator UK' and I have a site with domain that ends .co.uk already, should the 'UK' part be added to my page title so that it reads 'Chocolate radiator UK' or should I merely optimise the title/page for 'Chocolate radiator' and rely solely on the .co.uk domain as well as telling web-masters tools where my target country is?

    My concern is that putting UK in the page title is somehow wrong and reeks of over-optimisation.

    After many Google searches, I still can't turn up the relevant information on how to do this properly.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    If you are targeting a keyword Chocolate radiator UK then you should use it, otherwise you don't have the need to do so.
     
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    Yes, you should. Words in titles are more important than those in URLs so you have a better chance of ranking if you add the uk to your title.
     
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    No need to put a geo modifier keyword unless as above stated you actually want to rank that page for "Chocolate radiator UK' if you think people are actually typing that EXACT phrase into the search bar.

    Your country specific results for "chocolate radiators" are determined by TLD, what you set in Webmaster Tools, AND the IP address your site is hosted on:

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    But YES if you are specifically targetting the keyword "Chocolate radiator UK', then that should either be, or be a part of your title... the fact that you have.co.uk in your url will not affect your optmization for "Chocolate radiator UK' other than force country specific results in the SERPs for your site as discussed in the post.
     
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    No you should not use it in the page title or URL.

    If you are trying to geo locate a business you do that by putting the NAP on every page in schema, and bring the country in the headings and body. Adding a geo tag will help for bing.

    Use the community/city in the title (if it gets search traffic), but leave out the UK.
     
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  6. aka sam

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    A Good Title is when you have Your Keyword phrase in the title.

    So if you want to make it a good title, Use 'Chocolate radiator UK' in the title. You are not doing it to get the ranking in UK, you are doing it to get the ranking for the Keyword!
     
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  7. myopic1

    myopic1 Regular Member

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    Thanks for the response, I've followed many of your answers...you're my go to local SEO guy! Just to be sure that we're on the same page here, my exact search term is 'chocolate radiator UK' should I still not satisfy the key terms by giving Google the UK part as I would with any other search term?

    To further complicate matters I'm also attempting to rank for 'chocolate radiator' within the Google.co.uk SERPS, do you think the presence of the 'UK' in the page title would harm rankings?
     
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  8. myopic1

    myopic1 Regular Member

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    Thanks, I definitely see the logic behind that, you're treating it as any other search term.

    As well as ranking for 'Chocolate radiator UK' I'm also attempting to rank for 'Chocolate radiator' on Google.co.uk. In your experience, does this incur any penalties for over optimisation?
     
  9. myopic1

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    Thanks for that, you've given me more to consider with the IP address. I wonder how significant this is, I primarily use US based servers and web-hosting companies.

    Are you aware of over optimisation penalties for using the country tag? As I've mentioned in some of my other responses below I'm attempting to rank for 'chocolate radiators' within UK search engines and 'chocolate radiators UK' (also on UK search engines).
     
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    Yes, I understand your point. Even if you are targeting 'Chocolate radiator' on Google.co.uk...putting 'Chocolate radiator UK' in title would not count for over optimization. Chill out!!
     
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  11. myopic1

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    Ha thanks, better safe than sorry when it comes to money ;)
     
  12. relaxedsister

    relaxedsister Newbie

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    Don't use geo in your title. If you have .co.uk domain already, just use UK in the text. It's enough for SEO.
     
  13. Refusalsrights

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    I would not use UK in the title if you already have a domain that ends in .uk