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Proxies w/ Scrapebox,etc., Noob Questions (Trying to Grasp Full Concept + Info Collected)

Discussion in 'Proxies' started by BrooklynsFinest, May 23, 2013.

  1. BrooklynsFinest

    BrooklynsFinest Registered Member

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    Ok guys, I did a lot of research on proxy's on this forum and through google, and I do understand more than I did before, but there's still a few things I can't quite grasp. I was hoping some of you would be able to clarify a few things for me.

    I've been taking notes of all the information I find and keeping it in a document, so I decided to share that information here, in case any other newbies like myself find themselves asking similar questions...

    Main Types of Proxies
    Transparent - The visited site knows you are using proxy, and can see your real IP address
    Anonymous - The visited sites know you are using proxy, but can't see your real IP address
    High/Elite Anonymous - Visited sites do not know you're using proxy and can't see your real IP address
    Google Passed - A proxy that is able to access Google

    (thank you to innozemec for these definitions in a thread from April)

    Shared Proxies/Private Proxies

    For the most part, we want private proxies, since the shared proxies have been overused and spammed by this point, and likely banned by many of the big names (google, yahoo answers, etc.)
    However, I've read that Shared Proxies can be used for "Google Scraping"

    Difference between VPN & Proxy

    Proxy is browser based, VPN connects your entire system through a third party

    Anonymous Measures
    -Proxy Servers plus VPN
    -Tor Network?
    -Don't use Chrome, firefox is recommended
    -Run CCleaner Often
    -Erase Flash Cookies
    -Disable Javascript
    -Change Mac Address (I use TMac V6)

    Main Uses for Proxy in IM

    1) For Creating Multiple Accounts (Yahoo Answers, Gmail, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, etc.) - Using a proxy IP will mask your real IP and lessen the risk of getting banned by these websites for the reason of making multiple accounts
    Note: It's generally recommended to make only one account per proxy (IP address), and to use that proxy to return to log in under that particular account
    2) Tools such as Scrapebox, & Gscraper
    3) Blog Commenting
    4) Traffic


    My Questions

    If any of my info is wrong or misguided, please correct me. I get why may want to hide our IP address for making multiple accounts....but

    1- What is the main purpose in using proxies on tools like Scrapebox & GScraper?
    I haven't purchased either yet (well I downloaded the basic version of GScraper), but will likely soon (once I figure this all out!). Is it necessary to use a proxy for all the features on these tools? Like Harvesting, could one's IP address be banned from Google for Harvesting URLs?
    (Maybe I don't understand harvesting too well, but what I gather is that it's used to see how many sites are indexed from a certain URL on search engines. Instead of doing it manually, it does it automatically.)


    2- Scraping E-Mail Addresses- Among the tools I'm looking at are one's that scrape e-mail addresses. Is a proxy necessary to scrape e-mails? If I give a random URL that I know has 50 e-mails listed on it, what risk am I posing to my IP? (I'm not saying there isn't one, I just don't quite understand what it is)

    3- Site Traffic- Are we able to use tools such as scrapebox to increase our site traffic? From the sales page, this is the impression I got, but I'm not sure.

    4- Sending E-mail via proxies-I've read that some people use proxies to send bulk e-mail...is this done via services such as Aweber and mail chimp? or are there other IM tools that one would employ?



    Thanks guys, I know it's kinda a lot of questions, but any input from anyone who is familiar would be beneficial. Again I've read a lot and did about a day worth of research, but I can't fully grasp everything for some reason, and I really want to before I go ahead and buy Scrapebox (or Gscraper lol).

     
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  2. SPPChristian

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    1. if you are using your own ip after a few searches you will notice that google it will ask for captcha, in this point you will need a captcha resolver ... if you will keep searching and searching at some point you will be banned from searching google...
    This is how it looks a google banned proxy:
    google banned.jpg

    2. is the same thing, if you are going to harvest emails on google .... if you are going to harvest on other websites then you have to get more details about that particular website ... you can use a tool like http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...g-sites/427228-free-free-email-harvester.html

    3. as far as i know unless you leave great comments, scrapebox isn't going to increase your traffic. Rather, scrapebox will increase your backlink count which will then increase your SERPs which should get you Organic Traffic from SEs.

    4. there are a lot of tools you can use to send bulk email using proxies AMS (Advanced Mass Sender) for example, and as far as i know the majority of the public proxies have port 25 blocked, so you will have to search for private proxies, also note that almost all private proxy providers have their port 25 blocked and they do not sell proxies for sending emails, so you will have to search for a provider that sells this kind of proxies ...
     
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  3. proxygo

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    email proxies smtp proxies and there not cheap
    and no1 on bhw sells them
     
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  4. BrooklynsFinest

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    Thank you for your response!

    Ahh I get it now, I was using Traffic Travis today to do keyword research and I did get a couple of pop-ups to enter the captcha, and on a second search, half-way through I got an error message saying Google was preventing me from continuing. I didn't understand the whole "google banning you" process. I've come across the captcha's before, I guess they just ban your access for some period of time (I'm sure if I did it over and over there would be a worse penalty). Makes sense for the e-mail scraping as well.

    Thank you for letting me know about port 25, I will research this further among proxies. I wanted to use an e-mail service such as iContact or TargetHero to mass send e-mails, does this have anything to do with proxies? I worked for a place once that sent out mass e-mails (both opt-in and purchased lists), and I don't remember going through such procedure. I know that a lot of companies such as iContact have strict rules for using purchased lists, and will ban you if you get too many complaints, but will using a proxy help this situation at all? I'm guess an SMTP proxy wouldn't be necessary in this case, lol. (I must do further research to understand how SMTP works)

    For example, would it work if I used a proxy to sign up for an email marketing platform (iContact, TargetHero) (thereby hiding my real IP) using a different name and what not, and then use this platform to send out a few thousand emails? I know that many of them will allow you x number of e-mails for free, so no credit card info is necessary, and if it is, I'm assuming I can find some other way to pay.....(I could be wrong).

    Or say I didn't use a proxy, and just used my real IP and signed up, and then the service decided to shut me down bc of complaints (or if I'm lucky they wouldn't, but unprobable lol), do you think this would this have any other ramifications? I guess I would be banned along with my IP, but I dunno just some routes I'm thinking about. I only ask about these providers because I've used them before, and I now understand that they're a different tool than a program like Advanced Mass Sender.

    Thanks a lot for your input!
     
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    BrooklynsFinest Registered Member

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    Thanks I'm gonna do some further research into this as well as the difference between e-mail through smtp proxies and e-mail marketing platforums.
     
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    as well as

    there is also 1 other.
    public proxies, these come in 2 ways

    1 - scraped, this means thousands of users harvesting public proxies
    via scraping, this also means all using the same proxies, also means
    spammed to death + high death rate.

    2 - port scanned public proxies, this is scanning for open public proxies
    via ip address blocks from isp's, for those using public proxies for such
    as engine scraping they will last longer as fewer people have them and
    a proxie scraper can not harvest public proxies sourced via port scanning
     
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    Email spamming is against the law, so all IP providers take measures to protect themselves. And after you find an IP solution you still have to get your messages past the spam filters. Mass mailing is a very risky and/or expensive game.