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Proof that Google updates are not about search quality. They're about profit.

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by bartosimpsonio, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Little 'o GOOG was on a downward slope right until.....the Ebola Update on October 17. The update destroyed honest sites and slumped commercial sites below page 3 so they have to purchase adwords. Big brands get all the breaks since they spend billions in ads...

    Essentially Google has become Overture - it's a paid search engine. How long will they control what gets seen on the WWW for their own benefit?


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    The Ebola update is still being rolled out I am afraid =/
     
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    When you think about it
    It's funny seeing this on a blackhat forum

    Complaining about somebody manipulating the SERPs to their own advantage.

    I don't know about you, But thats what I've been doing for the last 5 years
     
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  4. nad999

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    Ebola breathed life back into them...lol
     
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  5. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    So you work at Google?
     
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  6. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Welcome to BHW! Proud that you joined just so you could post this first post ;)
     
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    Not his first post and Lounge = no post count. lmfao
     
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    Do you think he's a spy? those golden days, you'll see a BHW member praising Google
     
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  9. bartosimpsonio

    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    You know you don't have to be a black hat to complain anymore.... If you check some of the other usual google brown noser forums they're mostly complaining as well.
     
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    Google just want webmaster use their adwords = more money for them

    that;s why it keep do update with panda, penguin and sh1t

    and end up the the business goes down.. up... down... up.. down...

    webmaster become stress

    and the only way to stay "stable" (since they have no choice) = use adwords = $$$ for google
     
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    Am just wondering how many sites that use adwords got hit in this update ? 0 ?
     
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    I love how these posts unearth some old inactive accounts.
     
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    am active but on reading and working mostly, not posting much :)
     
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    Correlation does not imply causation in and of itself.
     
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    [​IMG] Originally Posted by nanavlad [​IMG]
    When you think about it
    It's funny seeing this on a blackhat forum

    Complaining about somebody manipulating the SERPs to their own advantage.

     
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    I completely disagree. And I'd honestly like to see someone on here do a better job than Google's executive engineers.

    Google makes money by controlling spam and trying their absolute best to deliver quality, relevant results. If they didn't do this well enough, people wouldn't use their SE and stockholders wouldn't buy their stock.

    I know I sound like Matt Cutts but I'd really like to see someone prove that Google is not doing a good job of this. And more importantly, HOW they can do a *better* job.

    Keep in mind that there are stockholders/investors who routinely spend millions just to research Google, and they do not disclose that data to the public. They do it for the same reason we spend money on backlinks.

    And backlinks are another thing. BHW members seem to suffer from this defect where they think they're the only ones trying to game Google. When fact is, like 98% of sites on page 1 are gaming Google. And Googles game is to prevent these millions upon millions of sites from gaming them. That's a pretty hard job if you ask me.

    If Google cared more about money than quality... then why slap Overstock and cost them millions? That's millions overstock could have gave to Google had they not slapped them.

    Why slap Ebay?

    Why slap content farms? SLAP SLAP SLAP.

    Here is something else to consider. IF Google ever REALLY DOES start putting money over quality, their stocks are gonna plummet .. this is a fact. Their largest asset is their stockholders so by maintaining quality, they maintain traffic, which keeps the money rolling in. If Google want's to grow, I mean exponential growth, their algo isn't the way. The SERPs are a revolving door. It's just 1 giant clusterfuck circle going round and round. And believe it or not, traffic IS limited. Combine all the keywords in the world and you'll see the # ends somewhere. If they rank all the phatcats #1, then the phatcats spend less on adwords. If they rank all the small businesses #1, then small business owners spend less on adwords. So if anything, it would make more sense to rank the small guys since fatcats drive the majority of the profits (edit: I tried to find a source to back this up and couldn't find any data on this).

    The real way Google makes money, imo is mergers & aquisitions.

    Why do BH members always focus on updates.... but not the 172 mergers & acquisitions that Google has made? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Google

    Just YT alone was 1.65 billion. Google's goal is to buy the world. Acquire more and more businesses = more traffic to leverage for their stockholders.

    And their cause IS profits. They ARE good at doing that. But these engineers aren't stupid. They know if their SERPS aren't pulling quality content, stocks are gonna plummet. And I can't think of anyway how a business can profit by providing an inferior quality product or service. Isn't this economics 101?

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    I agree..............
     
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    I totally agree with BreaknBrix's views. Well said, dude. :)
     
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    OP, do you really think Google has a problem with money right now? Really?

    Google, much like Mark Zuckerberg's FB, is more or less about dominating and controlling the world.
     
  20. bartosimpsonio

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    I never said that. I just said their "search quality" is about money, not quality. A view which your own comment seems to reinforce ;)