Programming just got a whole lot easier thanks to Github's new AI Copilot VS plugin

crnack said:

To write a reply on BHW you will need a language and understanding of 1000s of words.

Programming is easier than using human language if we aren't actually using programming to make AI understanding human language.

And the tech listed is there to only make your life easier. Learning more tech is just going to make you over-engineer solutions.

Writing software is basically copy pasting solutions and tailoring them to specific needs.

Otherwise, you are reinveting the wheel and the samsara opens.

If someone is telling me software is not about copy pasting code, then frameworks are irrelevant because they are just sets of patterns and forced standards + good practices which basically make it as easy as possible to copy paste from one project to another.

A few are dealing with complex operations and low level programming which clearly is useless for marketers. Of course there are exceptions confirming the rule.

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PHPInjected said:

Programming is easier than using human language? I mean, programming is human language. Lol

If software engineering/programming was as simple as "copy/pasting" code, everyone would do it and the positions wouldn't be as coveted as they are.

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crnack said:

Yes, that's right. Human language which we use as humans everyday is easier than that.

Software engineering is not programming because software engineering imo is more like embedded programming or something with a complex architecture.
For me engineering is a responsibility, meanwhile coding is something for people who can mess up, who can afford to make a bug.

A programmer can be someone coding apps and websites. It's mostly copy pasting. That's just my reflection on this.

Are these positions coveted? I thought 9.6 in 10 people think IT is some outlandish department where only nerds sit.

What is hard about something such as freelance work? I don't know. CRUD? Or maybe designing databases?

I don't know. It's like learning new words. A little bit of effort, but then it gets comfortable.

Do you see that you can't prove otherwise? Everyone has their codebase. Everyone has their open-source research. So you don't have to really spend much time coding.
Even your IDE is saying "dude, stop writing code, we have it all". To create a loop, it takes 4 or maybe 5 keystrokes. Then to make an algorithm, it takes 2 google searches.

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PHPInjected said:

Yeah, software engineering and programming are slightly different in the way that tires are different than cars.

They're coveted and my proof of that is in their salary. The median salary for a programmer in the US is 86,550. That's roughly $41.60/hour. The top 25% of salaries for programmers are in the $112,000 range. Let's even go lower at an entry level spot and disregard the median/high. The entry level programmer job roughly pays 42k, that equates to $20.19/hr.

In the US, lower wage workers FOUGHT for $15/hr jobs and whether or not I agree with that concept, my point stands. It's still higher paid than fast food by a decent margin. Which means that lowest skilled workers are still paid less than an entry level programmer.

Freelancing isn't hard perse. Dealing with clients and acquiring new clients is the challenging part. It's managing your time appropriately all of the time and branding yourself correctly.

It's easy to us because we're in the field. However, like I said above if it were so easy, everyone would be doing it.

Also, it's not 1994 anymore. IT isn't seen as where the social pariahs go.

To say that it's all copy/paste work is an oversimplification.

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