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Programmer looks for a way to earn money.. No blogging, no affiliate marketing, no GPT..

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by eXtremeXYR, Oct 2, 2014.

  1. eXtremeXYR

    eXtremeXYR Newbie

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    Hey guys,
    Well let me explain my current situation.. I'm currently studying quite hard and popular faculty in my country that's all about Math and Computer Science. I've always been passionate about making money online, but running blog/website just isn't for me, neither is affiliate marketing because having a website is like prerequisite to that.. I tried numerous times yet I always failed due to a lack of motivation of running a website for a looong time, get's boring pretty quickly to me.. :noidea:

    Is there a way to turn my "expertise" into profit? I don't care if it's black hat or white hat as long as I'm not going in jail and doing something seriously wrong/illegal.. I have experience in C/C++, Java, Python and I'm currently learning OCR (Optical Character Recognition). I'd like to build bots and stuff like that, that's the reason why I picked up learning about OCR, but captcha's are getting more and more difficult..

    I can also scrape the web for lots of content, like emails, names, potentially anything (I'd need to try it out before I can say "yep, I can scrape for _______")..
    Can anyone give me any ideas? I'd even like to partner up with someone.. Is a list of XXXk of emails that aren't really targeted useful to anyone?

    Disclamer: I'm not saying I'm best programmer out there, I have lot to learn (actually I doubt that any programmer can say "I learned it all! Hooray") but I'm willing to take my chances, try to learn lots of stuff, try to earn some money before the days come when I start looking for a 9-5 job.. Ugh..
     
  2. lord1027

    lord1027 Elite Member

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    There are plenty tools for captchas, I wouldn't get into this niche. Open a thread, ask people for ideas, bots they would need and pay for. Choose what you think that will sell best, then do it. Always start from what people actually need, not what you think they need. You're on a public forum, so why not ask IMers what needs do they have? (I'm not talking about sexual needs though :D )
     
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  3. eXtremeXYR

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    Haha, well first off, thank you for replying. :) You're right and to some degree that's why I opened this thread.. Well, not necessary to sell stuff, because I'm not qualified for selling on BHW, but instead to get some ideas, just like you said :)

    About captcha, well yeah, there are a tons of "bots" but newer and harder captcha are catching up.. But I guess for the more advanced ones, it's going to take a scientific team and a 5 years to be able to make a bot to smoothly go through an advanced captcha system anyway, so it's better perhaps to ditch that topic.. OCR can be useful in many ways, like clicking stuff for you and therefore automating a bunch of things given you don't have necessary right to access the process itself or link in case of web..

    Do you reckon I should open a thread elsewhere or will leaving it open here do me good as well? :)
     
  4. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I think you want to keep an eye on the hire a freelancer section here and if something pops up that would fall into your wheelhouse then chime in and see if you and the requester are a good fit.
     
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  5. Asif WILSON Khan

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    Sorry to be blunt OP but your thread title and both posts you made are a bit rubbish.
    You are a programmer that wants to make money from IM but don't want to do any IM.
    You get bored with websites and affiliate marketing.
    So how about using your programming skills to earn some dough?
    Find a problem, then provide the solution, but I have to say that the things you have posted, don't encourage me about your programming skills.
    If you are out of ideas then ask people, but you will probably get the usual request of google scraper, proxy harvester or traffic bot.
    People have built tools for the community previously, why not take a look at those and see if you can improve them.

    Good Luck
     
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  6. wickid

    wickid Junior Member

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    I wouldn't just limit things to the freelancer section here...why not sign up at freelancer sites like odesk, elancer, or freelancer.com. Might be able to earn a bit from easy jobs while learning new things at the same time.
     
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  7. eXtremeXYR

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    I'd do that, thanks for suggestion!

    Hey W130SN,
    Thanks for being blunt! Well I can understand you, now that you put it that way but the whole reason I'm posting this in IM-related forum is because I'd like to do some programming work that can help/benefit/enhance some IM/BH method..

    The line "how about using your programming skills to earn some dough?" is all fine and dandy but that's going to wait for me when I finish faculty anyway, like most of my peers don't even second think about using/improving their skills right now and earning something (potentially creating a passive income stream that they'll going to appreciate big time later on), instead they kinda wait to finish faculty, then apply for the job but that's what I don't really want, that 9-5 job.. So I thought instead of getting me out there, to do some local work and spend there hours (+ commuting) while studying I thought it would be a good idea to try to incorporate my programming with IM.. After all I tried IM, many times, so I know the terminology and I'm familiar with SEO up to some point.. Used TE, PTC, ran blogs, bough couple of domains, tried adsense, clickbank, HYIPs (got scammed lol), tried PPD with Sharecash (using YT + fake views), etc..

    EDIT: By saying it's boring to me, I hope I didn't offend anyone. I agree having a website + promoting is an awesome way to go, and kudos to all of you doing it currently.. It's just not my cup of tea, I really tried but I couldn't keep at it for longer periods of time.. :(

    Correct, that's what my career is all about anyway, but that's the reason I came here. To get some feedback, ie problems.. I don't see how it could encourage you of my programming in any way since I never written a line of code here..

    Good suggestions, I'll try it. Thanks :)

    You wouldn't believe me how hard is to land a gig there. Like honestly, people there have so pimped up accounts, that even if I were to do a work for zero dollars I would hardly get a gig because there's always some guy that's going to do it for dirt cheap + he has a reputation and great feedback.. :DBut I do agree with you that that's awesome source of income, and I'd definitely try to get my self there, but like in a two year time, for now I want to do something that's fun to me foremost (and this IM/BH really appeals to me) because of all the studying aside last thing I need is to get pissed of because of not being able to land a gig :(
     
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  8. Asif WILSON Khan

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    Well, I wish you the best of luck. If you understand SEO and IM, then it should help you make better tools.
     
  9. ThinkBinary

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    hahahahaha.... sexual needs :) But yea I agree 100% with you!
     
  10. eXtremeXYR

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    Thanks!

    Hahah yeah I doubt any program can replace sexual needs.. Perhaps one day an ultra realistic game with Oculus Rift, but until then, I'm of no help :D

    PS. To the guy who PM'ed me, I'm sorry but I can't PM back until I have 15 posts.. That's a bummer.. :(
     
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  11. BassTrackerBoats

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    That can get you banned here unless you have a sales thread which is a paid post.

    You seem like a decent guy, why don't you take out any semblance of offer to work for others unless prompted by them first. That is more along the lines of the rules of this forum.
     
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  12. eXtremeXYR

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    I apologize, I've edited my post.. :(
    Thank you for pointing it to me! :)

    It was not my intention to do something I shouldn't, I just went on with this relaxed atmosphere..
     
  13. SEODEMON

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    Programmers just lack imagination for great Ideas. If I was a programmer I would be rich for sure. There are so many things that you can do and create that are in great need.

    I often ask myself, why has this plugin not been created yet or software.

    I once met the guys that created a simple Plugin, Gravity Forms. I must say they live very well!

    There are simple PHP Plugins not yet created.
     
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  14. eXtremeXYR

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    I applaud your enthusiasm but you're not entirely correct.. I myself also like to draw for example, and my friends say I really draw well and that I should have pursued artistic career, but it's one thing to have an imagination and totally another to build that thing from scratch.. :)

    Like, I can be creative and I can take a paper and a pen and while sipping my morning coffee I could sketch up something that someone would say "Hell yeah, that's so creative!" but on the other hand when you want to build a software it's a looong process.. You really need to be sure what you're going to be researching and building better work instead of just having it pop on your mind..

    For example, few days ago I was having fun with free TE and stumbled upon my old EasyHits4You account.. I logged in and started surfing just to feel nostalgic.. Soon after an idea popped inside my head, why not try to build a bot for this, just for fun to see if I can achieve that? Should be easy, right? :D Then I started researching, I saved numerious pictures of different captcha EasyHits4You shows, I looked to see what was different, what was the same.. and fast forward, it's really, like really hard..

    You have like rectangle with 5 different symbols and you need to click on the one that repeats.. Basic idea is to have software print screen every 30s (when captcha appears), then crops the region of the screen where captcha is and then like divide somehow that rectangle into 5 different pieces horizontaly and try to compare pixels and see which one repeats the most.. The problem is, even captcha background changes and background contains the most similar pixels.. Then you'd need to have mouse precisly click on it and then again, EasyHits4You randomly throws off totally different captcha like "Twelve + 2".. So as you can see, this starts getting tough.. And the biggest problem is, one can easily spend like 30 days building it and researching it and if he finally makes it, what if it's totally poor idea? :(

    That's the difference in creativity when you compare, say art with programming.. In art, you almost always have technique down and you can just do it.. In programming, 8 out of 10 times you actually need to do heavy research on the topic and pour hours and hours into it (if it's complicated) therefore it's much more important for an idea to be solid rather then just creative when doing programming, at least in my opinion..

    SEODEMON, why don't you give programming a go? :) I could help you, actually I like helping.. You could ask me a bunch of stuff, and if you already feel like you're missing out by not learning it, it's never late :) Jump on the wagon :p
     
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    Use java to write android apps, profit?
     
  16. eXtremeXYR

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    Yeah, that's really good way to go, but both Android and iOS playstore are full of application/games these days, so unless I have good idea then I wouldn't even try. But I do agree that it's nice way of income.. :) I actually wanted to create a game for android using Unity3D as an engine with a good friend of mine, but since he didn't want to follow it though with me, I didn't really have any motivations for it to continue, plus it was an idea from both of us so it wouldn't be fair to finish it myself and take all the credits..

    To all of you that PM'ed me, I'm sorry to say but I can't PM you guys back because I don't have enough posts.. Soon :) And to rest of you that sent me your emails/skypes I'll contact you back, it's just that today has been a really busy day for me.. :/
     
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    I have no coding knowledge and used a canned "cookie cutter" app platform online. I paid like $50 for a 1 year subscription. I ended up making $150+ a month after little to no effort. But "iffy" genre's are tough, google bans a lot of apps. I don't think the "one big app" is the ticket, I think lots of small niche apps is easier and pays off better. You wont be flappy bird, but you will be basic flashlight app #17 with 50k downloads!
     
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    Oh really? I came across such apps/offers but I really thought they were rubbish, but now that I hear that I totally changed my mind :) Thanks for sharing, I'll for sure try it since I don't really have much to lose because I've seen somewhere those cookie cutter apps promoted for free (either pirated or free ones, not sure since I never really looked closer into it).. Do you mind sharing some tips on how you ended up creating $150+ ? I mean like what did you create and such, seems like it's not your niche anymore and I won't really saturate it any more than it potentially already is :)

    EDIT: Also is that like software that you download and you use on your desktop that allows you to drag-n-drop and create .apk files that way or is it like SaS (Software as a service) where you log in and create app on the site itself? The second example could be harder to pirate..
     
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    Then why don't you invest time and learn programming?
     
  20. eXtremeXYR

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    Heh, no idea.. Perhaps it's too much of a time sink if the SEODEMON already have something that's working for him..

    Alright guys, to make this thread a bit more useful, here's my preposition..

    What would you like to see? I'm not asking this particular question to make money, sell, I just want to see ideas -> then I'll get myself busy and if/when I produce anything that you mentioned I'll release it for free, here. I'll gain more credibility, everyone else will get a free product, so it's win-win situation :)

    Also if you need help with something, feel free to ask me, like really.. Got your code bugged, send it to me I'll try to help.. Just remember I'm not god lol :D So a generic question will be the most easiest to answer and the bigger the project the harder it is to find a bug..

    I also have a small experience with HTML, JavaScript, PHP, jQuery (because I had a exam from those in faculty) but that doesn't mean I'm using them daily and that I could easily help you, I just had to study them for faculty so if the question is beginner-ish I should be able to answer it :)

    EDIT: Also I can't send PMs yet, so write everything here.. It's even better for you, because that way more people will see, and collaboration works really good with programming anyway :) Unless it's super secret BIG project haha, then PM if you want it to stay hidden.. :D
     
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