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Probably a bad idea? Requires the Blackest of hats.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mark27, Dec 24, 2011.

  1. mark27

    mark27 Regular Member

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    So I've read a lot on this forum regarding backlinking, and one thing always sticks out, "Don't spam or the Googs will penalize you".

    That got me thinking.

    What's to stop you from absolutely SPAMMING links? I mean really spamming them as hard as possible. But not to any of your sites, to your competition.

    The Google machine catches them, which is really you acting as them, and penalizes them down in the ranks, bringing you up comparatively.

    Other than the obvious moral issues, I said this requires the blackest of hats, what's to stop somebody(don't look at me) from doing this?
     
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    transam7410 Power Member

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    People do spam other competition. And the really good ones make sure to use racist keywords and strong pornographic keywords as anchor text. Unfortunately the most competitors that would require such a campaign are already over a year old and they are huge authority sites.

    The answer you'll get most here is not to worry about spamming other peoples sites when you can apply that same energy to your own sites. I hate to admit it, because I wholeheartdly believe in being blackest of blackhat, that they do have a point. You can make YOUR site so much better when all your focus is on your site, and not someone elses.

    You might as well beat them fair, Ive seen karma too many times punish people for their wrong doings.
     
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  3. DustinSD

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    This is one of the big questions that lingers in the SEO community, especially after Google starting issuing spam warnings in Webmaster alerts. A lot of people, myself included, don't think it is possible to sabotage a competitor if they have a solid website (no duplicate or thin content with lots of ads, no obvious signs of being spam site). But the debate rages on.
     
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  4. mark27

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    So what I've learned is that

    1. I'm not going to beat Facebook, wikipedia, or any other large reputable site by spamming the hell out of them

    2. And the ones I would be able to spam down would be easier to beat if I focused that SEO on my own site.

    3. I better make my sites more like an authority site so they become almost immune to link spamming.

    Thanks, that's pretty much what I wanted to know.
     
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    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Bingo. Atta boy.
     
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  6. MagicMike

    MagicMike Power Member

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    Yea, my general feeling on the subject is that any site worth trying to beat in the SERPS is probably already insulated from that tactic by domain age, trust authority, etc.

    You may hurt brand new sites, but whats the point? The more established sites you'll probably help!
     
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    twilightofidols Power Member

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    You could spam facebook's links to holy hell and they'd probably just move higher in the SERPS if that's possible. A little birdy once told me he attempted to blast a competitor like this with porn and hate anchor texts on his very thin affiliate site but it didn't budge in SERPS with 5+ years of domain age.
     
  8. mark27

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    If it's so hard to blast a site down then why do I see a huge amount of threads about people worried that their backlinking schemes tanked their website rankings?

    Thing I learned from this thread #4. Old domains kick a$$
     
  9. MutatedBHer

    MutatedBHer Registered Member

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    This is a question that sticks in my mind, because I KNOW for a fact if I did this to my site the big G would have something to say, but if I did this to someone else, the chances are they would just end up being 'let off' :/
     
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    Yeah as someone here already mentioned..

    If your competitor is so hard that requires you to spam his website, then this spamming trick won't really affect his ranking (If he's THAT strong)
     
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    I think this would only work if you have some new competitor showing up one day and he tries to beat your site , you could spam him down. For the sites that have been around for some time , not a chance
     
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    Think people do do it. But it's a bit boring and a bit of a mission IMHO.
    It will probably be just as much hard work as promoting your own site would be, but at the end of it you won't have the sense of achievement.
     
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    You, sir, are not too fucking wise.
     
  16. cashmaster

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    if your competition is already an aged and authority website, forget it.
    You shall be actually helping them
     
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