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Private whois: Google can see your real domain info?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by jb2008, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. jb2008

    jb2008 Senior Member

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    I came across this post while searching around here:

    The thread's from 2009 but is still relevant today.

    My question is, does the fact that Google is now a registrar mean that it can see through private registration and thereby access our real info.

    I'm concerned about leaving a footprint if this is the case, but at the same time, I don't want to put fake info on my domains since I want to retain ownership.
     
  2. mdsurf

    mdsurf Senior Member

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    hmmmmm this would not be good for me. although i do find it hard to believe that if you buy a domain through namecheap(or someone else) get the whois blocked that google still gets to know who owns it.
     
  3. skohh

    skohh Regular Member

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    Guys. I know you think you own your little space on the Internet in an effort to fucking survive in the world. But who do you think you are to think you can outsmart google. They know the color of your pee, jus sayin
     
  4. jon_xx_x

    jon_xx_x Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Google can't see it.
    I forget the exact reasoning but I looked into this only a couple weeks ago because I was worried as well.
    I think the reasoning is, basically when you register by proxy, your name is not associated with it at all, proxy is the owner of it. So there's no way google could see that.
     
  5. hztaa

    hztaa Newbie

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    Yep, Google or anyone else can't see that. Only YOUR registrar knows who you are.
     
  6. oldaffiliate

    oldaffiliate Newbie

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    You may sleep better using a VCC and fake info on the domain registration.
     
  7. Autumn

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    Theoretically different registrars can't see behind each other's whois privacy.

    HOWEVER you're better off using fake whois info because:

    1) whois protection subscriptions sometimes lapse when you're not expecting them to and then your whois info becomes part of the public whois history for the domain, accessible through tools like domaintools.
    2) we have no way of knowing that registrars don't have some backdoor dealings with G or another 3rd party shell corp who is then feeding the whois info to G.
    3) there's no good reason to have your real info on a blackhat domain so it's good to take all the anonymity measures you can just out of principle.
     
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    kvmcable Supreme Member

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    Agreed!!! Whois privacy is unreliable at best and sometimes cost money. Fake the registrant in all contact boxes. Never worry about it again.

    WHMCS is great for this task
     
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    madoctopus Supreme Member

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    I hear you mate but I'm not sure I want to use fake info on a domain that I payed $4000 and invested a few thousand more to develop... or one that makes me several thousand in profit each month. Any thoughts/ideas around that?

     
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    Dr_Scythe Regular Member

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    If it's blackhat, use fake info.

    If it's whitehat, use your real info and protect your assets
     
  11. accelerator_dd

    accelerator_dd Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Well there are a few points making this impossible for google, the domain can be transferred while hidden info, google can't check every 5minutes. The domain might expire and be bought by someone else.

    This info changes all the time.

    They can't know who's behind the domain if you hide your info, and if they do, it's a violation of your privacy so they aren't allowed to use it against you (unless you make a small mistake and get banned for both reasons).

    Google's a big company, why would they risk if someone click jacked 200$ at some point and tried to hide now? If he tried again he'll be banned again, if not, it's not a problem for them.
     
  12. annabelle07

    annabelle07 Newbie

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    This is so true! It's scary the amount google knows - it's not healthy I tell you...


     
  13. loyalsupporter

    loyalsupporter Newbie

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    Why would you care that much? What you've got to hide?

    You should be only paying attention to that when trying to build website/blog networks for example.
     
  14. Simas9

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    I also had some doubts about this so I registered a couple domains for my sister, mother and dad :)