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Press Release to Dillute Anchor Text

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by zee007, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. zee007

    zee007 Senior Member

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    How good is using a PR service for diluting low quality and exact match anchor text links?

    Anyone have experience with this or another way of quickly diluting anchor texts?
     
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    You can hire one of the linking services on the marketplace here and request several keywords as part of the service. There is a ******** blog commenting service with a relatively quick turnaround time, I can't find the link but it should be easy to find there on the BST section.
     
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    If the press release is high quality it's going to get distributed by thousands of news sites and it's going to work great for your purpouse.
     
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    Don't waste your time trying to "dilute" anchor text.

    Just acquire more high quality links and you'll get to your desired goal.

    If diluting anchor text was the answer, you would have heard so many success stories after Penguin 2.0 rolled out last month as everybody and their mother was diluting their anchor text profile after the first few Penguin updates. But you didn't, cuz it's crap.
     
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    I see, according to you there's nothing to worry about.

    Why are sites getting penalized then?
     
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    Gyuman82 is offering you one possibility, because nobody can answer your question: why are they demoted? We don't know. It's either lack of links, or could be excessive same achor text as you suspect, but only a deeper analysis can tell for sure.
     
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    Sites get penalized due to "quality" of links rather than some generic anchor text %.

    If you only had quality links from places like CNN, Forbes, WhiteHouse.gov etc. they could be 100% the same anchor text and you would not receive a penalty.
     
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    Or, those quality, authority links simply offers protection against very real algo penalties. I've brought a few sites back by diluting anchors with shit links. I can think of no other reasons for the fall and rise of those sites except anchor text variation.
     
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    I agree.. You also have to have different platforms. If you use all of the same platforms it is a dead giveaway.

     
  10. zee007

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    I disagree. Google is looking for quality links AND anchor text distribution. Even if you got all your links from .gov or CNN with exact match anchor text, you WILL get hit with a penalty. I have seen it happen to many authority sites. You know why? Because its NOT natural for everyone to link to you with the exact same anchor text. Its statistically not possible! Remember "there are no straight lines in nature." Its simple probability. Its like saying every pair of jeans you pull out of a pile is going to be blue. Once or twice, but not every time. The same with anchor text.
     
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    Let me ask you then, what is the % before it is too much? 5%? 10%? 20%? 50%?

    If you were a Google engineer, how do you code that into the algorithm?

    The answer is you can't. The percentage of exact match anchors of a "natural" backlink profile is going to vary from industry to industry.

    If you have a health site maybe your keyword should only be 5%. If you own a software company, people may link to you with anchor text of your products upwards of 50%+

    Google can tell if a link is "shit' or not. Stuff like where it originates from and whether or not spun content is used etc. But figure out what a "natural" anchor percentage is? No way.

    It should be intuitively obvious that it would be impossible for Google to incorporate some "anchor text" percentage penalty as this number would vary from industry to industry.

    Do a simple test. Set up an affiliate site and prop up 20 links from a private blog network (no spun content etc), all with the same exact anchor text. You'll see your rankings shoot up. Wait till the next Penguin update, is your site still there? I bet you it still will be. Because quality matters more than some generic percentage.

    I can tell you before the last penguin update I was on a site building spree and had propped up a bunch of sites initially with 100% exact match keyword profiles, and Penguin came and gone and the sites were still up.

    I also can tell you I manage clients that have anchor text profiles as high as 70% for their targeted keywords, and their sites are still ranking well due to the fact that despite the high percentage these links all come from quality sources.
     
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    I still disagree. I had a client who was recently hit by P2.0. I did not point a single low quality link to his site. All were original content guest posts on very related sites. I followed everything till a tee, except for the anchor text. I used exact match every time and now the site got hit (should have seen that coming). How can you explain that? And when I mean high quality, I mean PR of 3+ on each and every guest post. No spun content at all.

    Yes, there is absolutely no magic number for anchor text distribution, but its like winning the lottery to say that everyone whose linking to your site is using the EXACT same anchor text that is in your title tag. Not mathematically possible. Natural means people will link to you using a variety of anchor text variation. And if it is high, Google has other way's of finding out whether you're legitimate or not. that's where social signals coming into play.

    Shoot, we sent people to the moon over 40 years ago! Deciphering data and doing data mining is not that difficult :)
     
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    I guess we can agree to disagree :)
     
  14. suerte8

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    lots of variables but when you dig extremely deep like this case study did
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     http://www.linkresearchtools.com/case-studies/penguin-2-0-analysis-cheapoair/ 
    like you said, if your link profile is out of whack for your industry, penalty time.
    I had all authority links (never any ezinearticles, goarticles or blog stuff) for a website and it has lost 60% of its usual traffic and the BL profile is normal for the industry.
    I haven't had time for it but making some now to ramp it back up.
    My first thought is, it has obvious affiliate links and some thin content which needs to be cleaned up.
    I am confident it will return, and if not, I still have social and video to count on so the monopoly search company can go &((%*()($#@

    I agree that social and natural link building will prevail, spamming to dilute does not make sense and it was tried for other other sites..