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PR and Nofollow - The Survey

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Micallef, Oct 20, 2009.

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Which backlink strategy will provide better results in Google's SERPs?

  1. 100 PR5 ******** Backlinks

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  2. 100 PR0 Nofollow Backlinks

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  3. No difference

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  1. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    I've seen a lot of conflicting opinions around the forum lately, and I want to gauge your opinions on the following issues:

    1) Page Rank - When you are building backlinks to your websites, are you concerned about the PR of the sites from which wou obtain your backlinks?

    2) Nofollow - When you are building backlinks to your websites, are you concerned about whether the sites from which you obtain your backlinks use the nofollow tag on your links?

    Completing the poll will help to quantify your opinions. For the poll, we can assume that all other factors are equal, i.e. relevance is not an issue because if you choose to apply relevance to the PR5 links, it is also applied to the PR0 links by default.

    If you've got supporting evidence for your opinion on either of these issues, please post it.
     
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  2. krish22

    krish22 Registered Member

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    1-yes PR matters
    2- not really. am only concerned abt the link
     
  3. trafficsource

    trafficsource Power Member

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    1- yes of course
    2- I am not building backlinks to my site.
    Building backlinks??? If you have web site which is good then no need to build backlinks because backlinks comes naturally.
     
  4. ryan-isra

    ryan-isra Junior Member

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    1. Yes, absolutely. higher is better.
    2. Yes, if someone ask you to exchange link but he/she put nofollow tag in your link, remove the link from your website.
    I agree with trafficsource about backlinks :)
     
  5. insider

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    100 PR5 ******** Backlinks
    100 PR0 Nofollow Backlinks

    You meant

    100 PR5 Nofollow Backlinks
    100 PR0 Dofollow Backlinks

    didnt you ?
     
  6. squelsh

    squelsh Regular Member

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    Yeah I think it should have been the other way around. In which case I would take 100 PR0 do follows.

    While nobody can agree whether nofollows do anything or not, most agree they dont pass pagerank so pr5 or pr0 it doesn't make a difference when it's nofollow
     
  7. Ontopic

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    PR is a good indicator of autorithy, but it is not the holy grail.
     
  8. dandandan

    dandandan Newbie

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    i use PR as a benchmark for authority - not more, not less.
    same opinion as crooker has -> get links from leader in SERPs for specific topic.

    i don't care, if someone nofollows links pointing to my site i still get the clicks!
     
  9. risefromdeath

    risefromdeath BANNED BANNED

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    depends..another important factor is obl..an pr 1 page with 10 obl..is better than pr8 page with 200 obl..hope that helps :)
     
  10. youngguy

    youngguy BANNED BANNED

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    1. If you want your ranking, PR is nothing.
    2. If you want to improve your PR. PR backlinks is god based on the number of offsite links it gives out.
     
  11. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    No, I meant what I said in the original post.

    These 2 phrases have been popping up everywhere lately on this forum:

    1) PR has no meaning when you're getting your backlinks

    2) Nofollow helps you rank just as much as ********


    All I'm doing is a test to see how many people really believe this.

    If they do, then they will choose the "no difference" option :)
     
  12. floppycode

    floppycode Newbie

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    But PR5 Backlinks are always better then PR0 Backlinks. Because the Reasons for a high pagerank, is also a part of the Reasoins for a high linkpower.
     
  13. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    That seems obvious to me as-well.

    However, all I read on the forum these days is "pr doesn't matter" and "nofollow doesn't matter".

    I am just seeing the extent to which these ideas hold force.
     
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    g111k Regular Member

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    Okay... I really don't understand what's going on here... some one please correct me if I'm wrong.

    This is one of the greatest forums available on the internet for any webmaster or affiliate. There literally hundreds of thousands of members, including some of the smartest and most successful internet marketers and talented computer programmers :violin:

    The vast amount of knowledge and resources like TOOLS THAT AUTOMATICALLY BUILD LINKS FOR YOU is unbelievable :D


    BUT WAIT!:rant:
    Instead of actually SPLIT TESTING and performing the above 2 variations of link building to same or similar pages and see the effects it has.... we debate like little kids going back and forth "PR doesn't matter" "******** is bs" "PR is king" "i don't build any nofollow links" :spank:

    Guys come on, I know there is a lot of theory and uncertainty regarding SEO... but there ARE numbers!!!! So maybe INSTEAD of some philosophical deductive logic based decision making (or POLLS) we should turn it a little bit more into a SCIENCE... you know with experiments and conclusions?

    Sure enough 1 person can't run the test and give a dead right answer... but I think with so many webmasters on here we should be able to run similar tests and compare the results, which will definitely point in 1 way or another!

    PS i love this forum and in no way ventilating or ranting any anger out, just a little constructive criticism :p u can hit the thanks if u agree
     
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  16. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    You don't need to talk to me about experiments.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/121293-my-experience-sandbox-effect.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...arged-backlink-experiment-results-so-far.html

    In the original post, I request supporting evidence for people's opinions. I'm gathering information for the benefit of myself and others.

    I feel pretty sure that nofollow low PR links are no good for SERP increase. I don't want to conduct an experiment on that myself because my gut instinct tells me it would be a waste of my resources. I simply don't have the time.
     
  17. Sweetfunny

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    Google recognizes them, because they crawled the page the links exist on..

    Ok i've got a PR7 domain and it's been PR7 for a couple of years. It's had a Nofollow to the contact page, and a Nofollow to a SourceForge page for years.

    The contact page is not indexed, never has been and Google has never hit the page. The SourceForge page is not indexed, never has been either despite both having a PR7 link pointing at them.

    So it's obviously passing nothing, nada and Google is not following the links (hence the name Nofollow) or awarding any merit to the links at all.

    Try it, set up some valid tests.
     
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  18. g111k

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    Micallef i'm sorry for the way my post appeared, i didn't mean to say anything against you regarding the experiments as I HAVE READ your other threads and a lot of your posts on linkwheels, and I personally find you to have the most informative / qualitative / quantitative / useful posts regarding seo.... perhaps that's the reason I brought it up for MORE people to get into this habit and have a lot more experiments to gather data from!
     
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  19. ayebea

    ayebea Newbie

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    Both Of them provide backlinks but The Major difference in NoFollow and ******** is ******** helps to increase the Page Rank except NoFollow.
     
  20. trafficsource

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    PR is the holy grail :)