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POLL: Downloads Acess - What should be required?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Essential Clix, Jan 13, 2008.

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What should be required to access the downloads section? (Multiple-choice)

  1. Reputation System - Keep it as it is!

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  2. Reputation System - Keep it, but lower the Rep requirements

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  3. Post Count - Require 30 quality posts

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  4. Time Period - Require 1-2 week waiting period

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  5. No Requirements - Allow open access to everyone with no limitations

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  1. Essential Clix

    Essential Clix Executive VIP Premium Member

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    This is not an official poll in any regards. I'm just a little curious as to what you think the requirements to access the downloads section should be. Please feel free to voice your opinion as well, but do not let it get out of hand. Thank you.
     
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  2. pdaguy9

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    I think you're missing something. What about a combination of two of them?

    I would say, 30 posts and 1-2 week waiting period.
     
  3. Essential Clix

    Essential Clix Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I think i forgot to mention that this poll is multi-choice; you can choose a combination of 2 or more, as you see fit.
     
  4. MaestroDelWeb

    MaestroDelWeb Executive VIP

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    30 posts and a one week waiting period is a good way to do it. Of course keep the posts moderated until after they hit a certain amount of posts. I know some people are annoyed with the moderated posts, but I think it's a very good idea and has cut spam back considerably.
     
  5. famook

    famook Registered Member

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    I like the combo also, 30 qualiy posts and 1-2 week waiting period. Once the person hits 30 posts Then I think the mods would have to still approve the person first. This could also be done by respected members who might volunteer to keep the work load down.
     
  6. clopper

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    Once you have it you shoudn't lose it, if the arguement is to spur activity it is only annoying some of the best contributers to share more and not be able to share in what others post and then have to race with the newbies and lurkers to get back to downloading. Seems like an annoyance to punish for no reason, this is why we need a tiered system if this is to work.
     
  7. Uptownbulker

    Uptownbulker BANNED BANNED

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    Well, for once, I don't really know what to say!

    As an experienced forum admin and moderator, I have always granted full priveleges upon proper registration and then if a registrant screws up, I take it from there; post approval, short-term banning and just frying them straight off the forum as a last resort.

    It is a bit of a pain in the ass to not be able to download, which I cannot with a rep of only 17 but I have found that guys who are irritated by the requirement usually find the download and put it back up using the old "hXXp" thing in the body of the post so it gets by the limit.

    I offered up two freebies which some guys did download but only got a couple of reps and I know that there were many more downloads than that cuz I watched it!

    It wasn't great stuff but it wasn't bad, either!

    A short time limit and a set number of "quality" posts seems to me to be the way to go.

    Those, "Thank you! Rep left!" posts would not count as "quality" posts.

    Guys and gals come here to learn and may initially have little to offer in terms of downloads or products for sale or trade so it makes it tough for them to get enough rep to be able to participate.

    I would recommend granting full access upon fulfilling the "donation" requirement though.

    I know that you mods have a really tough job and I do think that you are doing a fine job, so keep up the good work!
     
  8. Oakley

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    In the end it will be up to the powers to be, as it should.

    I suggest anyone who has been in this forum for a stated amount of time should be allowed to download regardless of what they have given - period. I mean if the mods decide 2 wks, 4 wks, 6 mos, 9 months etc whatever then if they are an ACTIVE member then they become eligible to access downloads. This is regardless of reputation, shares or anything else.

    I also say that a member who comes in and offers heaps of information be given the right after lets say 2 weeks to access downloads, obviously helpful information. Once again regardless of reputation.

    I also think that if someone once to walk into BHW give many new useful shares, not ones already in the forum then they should be allowed access to download. In my humble opinion without regard to reputation or length of time involved in BHW.

    Now once again what the very experienced members believe to be of value will not be on the same level as what an inexperienced member (such as myself) will consider valuable. This is evident by the number of posts in this forum between members stated responses to given posts. To combat this problem maybe a panel of experienced and inexperienced members could be formed so all members would be represented in BHW and not just the experienced members.

    This is rambling on; on my part, and may spark disagreement, but if something is to be done; do it, make it final with no exceptions, make it clear, enforce it and move on!

    If the owners decide only a certain knowledgeable marketer needs to be here, clear everyone else out; I mean how in the hell is somebody like me is going to help somebody like you essential clix? It's not gonna happen unless I go out and steal software you need that I don't have. I mean damn it every piece of software I could offer is here (all 3) and useless to guys like you and many, many others in this forum any way. Oh by the way many like yourself have probably forgotten more than I know so many times I cannot post to thread for lack of know how.

    So to make it clear I agree with all views regarding downloads, everyone reading this thread has a valid point on what the requirements should be to access the downloads; it's up to the people in charge to figure out how they want their forum to be. Once done and rules are in place all else will fall in line.

    If and when this happens I for one will say thank you for the invite if I am accepted or thank you for the opportunity if I am deemed unworthy of BHW and I will move on.

    I really enjoy this forum and for all reasons, the shares, the knowledge, the news and the laughs. But not to cut anyone down or to pass judgment on another BHW member so if this is a first step to an ending great thread essential_clix .
     
  9. jim39

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    what ever it will be, leave it in place, grandfather current members in...

    i have only been here a short time,

    first i did the 25 post thing
    and i went ahead and paid the $15 away
    then the rep thing starts, ok then
    leave it in place....
    new changes, should be for new members....

    but i am a peasant with i think 23 reps now...


    anyway what are the credits for?
     
  10. gr33n

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    i would say 30 post and 1-2 weeks waiting period.
     
  11. desirez28

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    I think 21 rep or less to get download, then outsider who want to steal it and left the forum without contribution can be decrease to 0.01%! I love someone to contribute and share their skill,stuff and knowledge.
     
  12. caretaker2007

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    The worst thing, really, is this damn post approval process, which is beginning to get to me. Making it very hard to participate in a timely manner. Heck, it is about 222 GMT and this post won't show, or probably won't show till 1600 GMT. When a noob does make a worthwhile post, and it takes 12 hours for it to show, who goes back and looks?

    Leave the DLs as is and, with all this discussion on the topic, have the members be more aware of what the use of rep is. Plus admins/mods can, I would imagine, grant extra reps/give a free membership to someone that posts/shares something outstanding.

    desirez, if someone wanted to shell out the membership fee and swipe everything to post elsewhere what would be the difference?

    Me, I am either a cheap bastard, or a poor one, and will have to wait till I get a 21+ rep, or grow to BHW adulthood and can have posts go real time...... Which ever comes first.
     
  13. the-perro

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    I say make it a waiting period of a 1 month and 30 posts
     
  14. joy_joy

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    I think you should add credits to the mix.

    30 posts + 200 credits + 1 week's waiting from the day you reach both.

    I don't know how credits work but they seem to have something to do with total length of posts. This will allow people to write longer... meaning... quality posts... not just "thank you" posts.
     
  15. revax

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    I think it should be a combination of posts and waiting period. Maybe add a system that determines if a user is active (not just necessarily post a lot), I know other boards that give users a "point" for logging in that day.

    I don't think that rep should be *required* for anything, it'll just lead to people begging/exchanging for it.
     
  16. pcmoseley

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    The download section just needs to be a paid membership and everyone is happy.
     
  17. webhat

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    Totally agreed.

    I think we are going the wrong direction by making the forum
    more and more restrictive.
    The forum should be a community with some common interest.
    Once someone is signed up, he's part of the community, learning and growing together.
    We should want to make the place so attractive that they just want to
    come back again and again, and imo the less restriction the better.

    Using the number of posts is ok, the points system is ok, even total login time in the past month is ok, because they are very objective indication of participation.

    Anyway someone has mentioned earlier that BHW should be more about sharing methods and ideas, and not so much about sharing downloads,
    which make it unique versus warez sites.

    I can see that now with the rep system, junior people here start copying threads from warez sites to gain reps. Is this what BHW want to achieve?
    :rolleyes:
     
  18. easy

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    I think they should contribute at least three virgins for use by other members before they can download shit.

    But wtf do I know? :D
     
  19. vlerian

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    a very good comment by webhat.
    What BHW want to achieve?
     
  20. poo

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    Uh.... No Requirements - Allow open access to everyone with no limitations :p