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POLL About keyword density (EXPERTS please respond :) ) how many keywords do you find

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by iknowjack, Nov 4, 2012.

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Keyword density in describe example is:

  1. Roasted chicked style - Way over stuffed

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  2. Bad - Oversfuffed

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  3. Not to good, but not bad either

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  4. Good

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  5. Best possible

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  1. iknowjack

    iknowjack Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Let me know if keyword inside here is over saturated in next example (for my personal use i do it differently then explained, i tend to do only like half percent of keyword density)

    For next example some online tools told me its over 4% density, some 2,7%, but i would like also some expert opinion.

    This is example (of one homepage): Keyword is made out of 2 words
    1: I have like 550 words article on homepage (also less important, but important for ranking: website is made like from 10 pages, on half of pages same keyword is stuffed on similar way)
    2: There are like 6 times exact keyword repeated in text (not anchors) but like normal text, bold, heading etc
    3: there are like 5 times exact keyword also in anchor text (links to internal pages) - this is in sidebar

    On top of that if i look pure html i found in total like 22 exact instances of keyword (but thats probably less important...although not sure if its really so less important because of G...like img name, and alt text of image and title and meta and so on)

    When you look this what is your opinion how many keywords are and how stuffed is this from eye of the great mr google
     
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  2. Smeems

    Smeems Regular Member

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    Where's the option in the poll that says: "Why the fuck are you caring about keyword density % for SEO in 2012?"
     
  3. ja1myn

    ja1myn Senior Member

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    Well, he does seem to know jack about SEO.
     
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  4. iknowjack

    iknowjack Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    hm, so you are saying its not important ???
     
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    Can anyone help me please, i did a bit of more detailed break down, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS TO SPAMMY FOR G
    keyword is in:
    1: 1 time in tittle
    2: 3 times in similar to
    Code:
    link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="keyword » Feed" 
    3: 1 time in
    Code:
    <link rel='next' title='keokkri keyword sjkjirlpt ' ...............
    4: 2 times in meta description content
    5: 2 times in meta keywords
    6: 1 time h1
    7: 1 time strong
    8: 1 time h2 strong
    now here article begins
    9: strong
    10: h2 strong
    11: h2 strong
    12: h2 strong
    13: 2 img title
    14: 2 img alt
    15: strong
    16: internal anchors: some 4 or 5 internal links (with keyword of course) to subpages....here are 2 examples out of 5
    Code:
    <li class="page_item page-item-11"><a href="http://keyword.com/something-keyword-something/">Something keyword something</a></li>
    <li class="page_item page-item-12 current_page_item"><a href="http://keyword.com/">something keyword</a></li>
    17: title feed, with keyword of course
    18: well, again anchor link to same page at bottom...or course with keyword (copyright disclaimer)

    so to sum up, keyword appears on base root domain is like 22 or 23 times

    this is obviusly emd domain,....so of course i DID NOT include instances (over 10 of them) where url is in some internal links...i dont mean anchor here, i mean pure url...because there are like over 10 instancer of url....and of course since this is a emd....there is a keyword in source of url...but i DID NOT INCLUDE THIS

    so to spammy ?
    i bought this gig for like almoust 100 usd here, 3 months ago. in 1 month keyword was like around 40 spot (i assume this was because google saw website in development in 1st month), then in 2nd month keyword hit top 10 (1st page).....and it was there for like 2-3 weeks ago...UNTIL THAT TIME I DIDNT DO YET ANY BACKLINKING..i played safely....they keyword disapeared from serps..its out of top 50...its out for more then 1 month...probably more
    its very easy to rank keyword
    1 month ago since its out i started doing some very very very slow tier 1 building....remember, i started this like 1 month ago...so this is not the reason why keyword would drop....with unique writen articles on tier 1...and some or tiers are already in top 50 (3)
    so ..there is not any direct backs links yet, except max 10 of them....all hand made, with uniq articles..and they were made in last month

    i also bought aditional awaible emd (.org) in last days....i do believe this is a very good profitable keyword ...but did i get penalty because of bad ON PAGE SEO ? should i stop working on this 10 page website and move to new just bough .org and make sure i dont make mistake like seller bwh did ? you think he made mistake ?
     
  6. Duffers5000

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    Are you saying you used a keyword 6 times in a 500 word article ?. Thats definitely stuffing.

    I aim for less than 2%.In some of my bigger sites even less than that. There are exceptions, some keywords are hard to avoid on specialist sites and if the content remains readable then you can go up a little.

    PM me your site and keyword and I will have a look at it.
     
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  7. iknowjack

    iknowjack Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    for thsi case 6 is what apears to be a minimum....keyword apears 20 times in HTML source (WITHOUT COUNTING keywords in URLs)....but i am not sure what to include in keyword count..if i include images (title on image and alt on image) then i am already at number 10...if i include anchors to my internal page...then number of main targeted keyword is already at 15
     
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    Wheras keyword density and metadata was everything 2 years ago - on it's own it's only a minor contributing factor these days.
    While you can over op and risk (only risk...not definitely) a slap - to get best results a load of context based metrics should be taken into account for good onsite SEO

    LSI is a wider subject than it was 2 years ago.

    Links and good onsite SEO/LSI working in tandem seem to get best resulta in money making niches.
     
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    Maths = Fail

    if it's a key WORD (which it says it is) he's going at 1.2% there buddy. Which if anything is a little on the low side.
    If it's a 2 word term he has about average density
    for a three word term he's overused slightly and would benefit from the article being 650 words rather than 500

    Always better to add to reduce density by increasing article length than by reducing the keyword count. But lazy assed internet marketers normally do the latter.

    Keyword alone means no where near as much as it once did though. What is the context? (Site, other words on page, outbound links to niche authority or other relavent pages on your site - images, video...) Keyword density is one small past of overall context.

    Scritty
     
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    its keyword made of 2 words

     
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    would you perhaps look on my website and give your opinion if my main keyword is little, or way overstuffed ?

     
  13. Duffers5000

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    You got me on the maths alright....I struggle once I run out of fingers and toes to count on !

    In my defence I would say this is an example of why there is no fixed perfect percentage that can be used. It varies depending on the niche and keyword. Its also an example of why I dont write with a calculator beside me. A 500 word article is essentially a 2 paragraph post. His keyword is a two word phrase, so for example "Football boots" If I read a 500 word article that had football boots inserted 6 times, I would find it hard to read and would consider it stuffing.


     
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