Playing White hat doesn't get you anywhere..

silent_thunder · Nov 22, 2009

If you got sandboxed for whitehat..then its not whitehat...its BH. Anyway as far as I am concerned there is no way other than to break Big G's rules in SEO.Those claim to be Whithat is also doing manual linkbuilding .The only difference between BH and WH is speed much like a comparision between a women in her 20's and late 30's...its easier to get the women in 20's faster but you always know women in 30's are more experienced and give you the full monty..

hustlingrind · Nov 22, 2009

white hat can definitely get you somewhere but it's not a hobby it's a war.

Jim786 · Nov 22, 2009

silent_thunder said:
If you got sandboxed for whitehat..then its not whitehat...its BH. Anyway as far as I am concerned there is no way other than to break Big G's rules in SEO.Those claim to be Whithat is also doing manual linkbuilding .The only difference between BH and WH is speed much like a comparision between a women in her 20's and late 30's...its easier to get the women in 20's faster but you always know women in 30's are more experienced and give you the full monty..

Well, I didn't do anything that was Blackhat, I manually built ALL of my links and got traffic to my sites. Other than that I didn't do anything.

armin64 · Nov 22, 2009

White hat is all about social networking, forget that adsense revenue or everything similar to that, they get you nowhere in WH. While you can reach other interested people in your field of expertise and keep them satisfied with your products or services you shouldn't be worry about anything, more important a WH business is much more stable than a BH one.

My $0.01x2

XsenseX · Nov 22, 2009

Maybe in google terms ... Your 'method' of building links is similar to those blackhat styles?

I mean, they won't care whether you did it manually or with bots, its just the pattern of your link building.

madblacker · Nov 23, 2009

there is a lot of grey area in terms of white has vs black hat, I mean, if you can emulate a white hat campaign using blackhat methods, like for social networking, that uses human input combined with automation, it is basically white hat as far as an outsider is concerned, same with link building, there is no one watching you to see if you build links manually or use a clever script (with content spun posts / articles), toeing the line is important so everything seems white hat, but who gives a shit if its really completely white hat as long as it is seen that way by the entities that matter

Jim786 · Nov 23, 2009

madblacker said:
there is a lot of grey area in terms of white has vs black hat, I mean, if you can emulate a white hat campaign using blackhat methods, like for social networking, that uses human input combined with automation, it is basically white hat as far as an outsider is concerned, same with link building, there is no one watching you to see if you build links manually or use a clever script (with content spun posts / articles), toeing the line is important so everything seems white hat, but who gives a shit if its really completely white hat as long as it is seen that way by the entities that matter

Hmm thats gay... I built all my links manually and did it all myself, how could they confuse that with Blackhat?? Even if it was the same pattern... Well I guess I can't really do anything about it now.. How is the sandbox automated? Is it by computer or by people? Also can someone please explain how to do this:

If the post you promoted got deleted, simply make a new post with the same old permalink. That can save some work you have done.

Thanks.

silent_thunder · Nov 23, 2009

Google doesn't care, whether you employed 100 indians, or used bots or built them all by yourself..if they find you played against the book they can nail you down.

Building any link which is unnatural is against their TOS...so my advise is know about your niche, use black hat tools to replicate your competitor to play safe.

The key is stealth...No patterns !! No Wheels!! No Lines !! or Circles !!

Playing White hat doesn't get you anywhere..

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