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Pinterest Gets $7.2 Million Dollar Judgement Against Cybersquatter

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  1. appache

    appache Regular Member

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    Just came across this article
    http://www.thedomains.com/2013/09/3...-against-cybersquatter-over-100-domain-names/

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    Pinterest Gets $7.2 Million Dollar Judgement Against Cybersquatter Over 100 Domain Names
    2013 September 30
    by Michael Berkens
    
    According to Allthingsd.com, A San Francisco judge awarded Pinterest $7.2 million in damages and legal fees against  a Chinese cybersquatter Qian Jin, over 100 domain names including pinterests.com, pimterest.com and pinterost.com.
    
    The judge found the infringement to be ?willful and serial,? noting, ?There is no indication of good faith mistake or excusable neglect justifying defendant?s failure to respond or otherwise defend against plaintiff?s allegations.?
    
    Pinterest.com also was awarded the domain names.
    
    Here is the original complaint
    
    Here are the domain names the Pinterest filed the lawsuit over.
    pinterest.es
    pinterest.de
    pinterest.it
    pinterest.tv
    inteeslcom
    pfnterest.com
    piaterest.com
    pierest.com
    pilnterest.com
    pineret.com
    pinestter.com
    pinfterest.com
    Pingterest.com
    pinherest.com
    pinierest.com
    pinlerest.com
    pinserest.com
    pint3rest.com
    pint4rest.com
    pintbrest.com
    pintcrest.com
    pintderest.com
    pinte4est.com
    pinteSest.com
    pintebest.com
    pinteet.com
    pintefrest.com
    pintegest.com
    pinteiest.com
    pinteirest.com
    pintekest.com
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    pintercst.com
    pinterdest.com
    pinterefst.com
    pintereft.com
    pinteregt.com
    pintereht.com
    pintereist.com
    pintereit.com
    pinterelt.com
    pinterent.com
    
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    pinteres5.com
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    pinteresnt.com
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    pintierest.com
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    pintrset.com
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  2. Panther28

    Panther28 Elite Member

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    bang goes that method then,
     
  3. HomensdaLuta

    HomensdaLuta Junior Member

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    is this the oldschool guy that made millions with this kind of methods in the last decade?
     
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    Yes like they will ever see that money...

    On the other hand how do all those domains justify $7.2 million in damages? I would request a full representation of the costs and the basis of them.
     
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    appache Regular Member

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    I don't know. I am not coming up with a lot of information about this person. I would tend to think he made major bank though as the judge mussed have assessed he made sufficient funds to establish a settlement that size.
     
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    MaverickonRoids Power Member

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    I agree, they won't ever see that money. All it is, is a forfeiture of the domains, due to copyright infringement.
     
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    Yeah I hear that. Oddly enough, I was checking a few of those domains and found one that is still parked, whereas the other 4 I checked were down.
     
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    What a load of bull. You claim the domains and get them. To sue for damages is just PR.
     
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    What I do not see is the reason for damages though. If they are not ripping the pinterest website, then the user gets that he is in the wrong spot and will carry on? I don't see how it damages pinterest's business.be

    Maybe it is just me that sees a parked domain or a url error as basically the same thing...
     
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    now wait for the next big site, and do the same
     
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    Anyone who uses a method like this must know it is unsafe, and that the domains can be seized at any moment. You will almost always lose the case, because the domains were bought in bad faith to exploit someone else's trademark.

    The reason the damages are so high is that he didn't even bother to defend the case, so they issued a default judgement of the amount requested by Pinterest in the original complaint. If he had just turned up and said that the damages were excessive and didn't reflect the actual injury, they would have been reduced massively I think.
     
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    NX_NULL Regular Member Premium Member

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    they are in China, therefor they will not pay a cent to pinterest but they lost all their .com and .net domains cause these domains operate inside US and they can do whatever they like to any .com and .net extensions.
     
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    This and the answer above make perfect sense to clear all this up though.
     
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    Obviously this guy was going to try to make (or already had made) money from the domains since he's got the bulk. But I don't see why domains like pierest.com and pintert.com were lumped in. It's a stretch to say those are attempts at copyright infringement, and surely the squatters got a heck of a lot more domains than just the ones listed, so to say that anything starting with 'pin' or 'pi' and ending with 't' is infringing is ludicrous.