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Phantom Cloaker vs. SSEC Blog Cloaker Who Wins?

Discussion in 'Cloaking and Content Generators' started by dmed123, Oct 18, 2008.

  1. dmed123

    dmed123 Junior Member

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    I wanted to see if anyone has had any luck with Phantom Cloaker. I've just set up SSEC Blog Cloaker and while it has some amazing functions I think it way over priced.

    I've been looking for move to Phantom Cloaker but unsure it's a quality product since there website doesn't give that much information on how it works.

    I know with SSEC it's main advantage is that you have a updated Ip list so detection is at a minimum.

    Has anyone has sucess with Phantom Cloaker and is it comparable to SSEC?
     
  2. CapMorgan

    CapMorgan Junior Member

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    Try a search this has been discussed a few times before.
     
  3. blckyboy

    blckyboy Newbie

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    "phantom cloaker" also goes under the name of "doorway page wizard", which has definitely been shared.
    In my opinion it's pretty outdated.
     
  4. seodeveloping

    seodeveloping BANNED BANNED

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    I wouldn't use either of them personally.
     
  5. 1EightT

    1EightT Registered Member

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    They aren't even in the same league. Blog Cloaker is FAR more advanced and up to date.
     
  6. yowies

    yowies Regular Member

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    It might be more "'advanced" but I bet the pages/sites that it creates get deindexed just as fast as the original SSEC software generated sites...SSEC=Big$ for little return for the majority of its users...I was bitten twice..
     
  7. antiquar

    antiquar Newbie

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    SSEC is a scam. It does not work. I tried it. It generates pages that are worthless. Maybe 1/100 of the pages are getting indexed but they will be de-listed after 48 hours. If you ever want to blacklist your site this tool is for you. Plus they will never refund your money if you are not satisfied. There are much better tools out there. Datapresser is one.
     
  8. Implicated

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    I haven't used Phantom Cloaker so I can't give you a comparison...but I can show you that you don't always want to believe what you hear from people posting on this forum.

    I've been a subscriber of SSEC since November of 2006, I had no clue what I was doing and no idea about blackhat/whitehat...I was REAL green, today I still have my ssec setup with over 100k domains up and running...it works just fine for those willing to put in the work and effort it takes.

    If you're looking for get rich quick look elsewhere (and keep looking after trash each product that doesn't work for you). But I can assure you blog cloaker is a quality product and nearly limitless on what it can do...the only limiting factor is the user.

    Take it for what you will, I only have 2 posts, blah blah...if you have questions about the simplified software PM me and I'll be glad to answer.

    CPU Load Avg: 1.46

    Domains
    In-Queue: 0

    Server-Wide
    Domain Count: 108559

    Over 75% of those domains are still indexed. It works.
     
  9. Implicated

    Implicated Newbie

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    http://simplifiedses.com/videoDemo/
     
  10. brad1001

    brad1001 Junior Member Premium Member

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but do SSES blogs simply redirect traffic? Or do they cloak content (deliver different content to bots and humans)?
     
  11. Nixte

    Nixte Regular Member

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    well, what I understood from SSES is that it shows the bots one thing and you can have it do different things for your human visitors. Either you can forward it (meta),java or show the content (Building MFA sites).
     
  12. brad1001

    brad1001 Junior Member Premium Member

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    Show different content to humans (legible)?

    Using redirects (even with delays) straight from the SERPS is a flawed method! Google can pick-up redirects via its toolbar. It's best just to do content delivery - different content for bots and humans.

     
  13. xiphre

    xiphre Regular Member

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    I never was very impressed by any of those? Why buy when you can code something better?
     
  14. yowies

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    but I can show you that you don't always want to believe what you hear from people posting on this forum.

    Fair enough...when are you going to show us.:D
    Its overpriced junk...the majority of the forum members where getting creamed when I was a member..both times..the owners claimed they were making money...they were..off the subscribers.

    Over 75% of those domains are still indexed.

    Maybe for you..
    Was it the 'Pascalos' sub domain trick.?;)
     
  15. solobeton

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    There is alredy such tool. It is plugin called: WP cloaker
     
  16. dumdumz

    dumdumz Registered Member

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    I disagree that SSEC is a scam. I was a member and the software does work. I had some pretty good results with it. However, I quit because I couldn't get decent support. When I had a problem and pm'd brian, all he would say is "its working for me." Also, a lot of the users on the forum have their own little clicks so to speak. Many are very rude and don't seem to like new members. The software is also way overpriced and if you stop paying them every month, you lose everything you built while you were a member.

    I haven't used phantom cloaker yet. I also think that wpcloaker is pretty crappy so I built my own wordpress cloaking plugin. Combine that with many of the content generation plugins and feed scrapers out there, there is no need to pay 70 bucks per month for SSEC or any of the other expensive cloaking tools out there.
     
  17. forex

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    How do you argue with that? I guess it's time to design my own. I can do that but it would be sweet to have a blueprint of things to include think about etc. I would pay 100's for something like that. Instead of giving me a tool that everybody has their personal positives and negatives let me buy your brain for a few hundred dollars after all that's what you say your software does. I will live and die by my own SEO understanding just give the rules you think are important when creating the automation!
     
  18. ajnnadeau

    ajnnadeau Newbie

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    I worked with Search Engine Cloaker (SEC) for the last 4 years and am the creator of Express Website Installer (EWI) that is a complementary software to SEC that automates the process of setting up a cloaked website using SEC. I know a lot of people in these forums have used SEC and EWI together as it is discussed in a few threads here.

    I am currently in the process of creating a WordPress plugin that does exactly what you are looking for. The plugin will 1.) grab content 2.) manipulate the content so that it is optimized, unique, and grammatically correct 3.) automatically post to your WordPress blog 4.) cloak your blog so that the search engines see your unique, optimized, and grammatically correct content while your human visitors get redirected to the website of your choice (affiliate website, sales page, etc).

    Right now the plugin is in the final stages of testing and will be released for beta testing. If anyone is interested in beta testing or has some feature recommendations, please send me a PM.
     
  19. mskerry

    mskerry Registered Member

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    I tried using both SSEC and the blog cloaker for a while, and both didn't work for me personally. Within 1 week all my blogs were de listed from the big G. The customer support was ok although setting up the programme to work on was a pain.

    In my opinion save your money and look eles where
     
  20. 1EightT

    1EightT Registered Member

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    SOmething was horribly wrong with your methods or setup if you got delisted in a week.....