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PETITION AGAINST YELP-only 61 more signatures needed!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Yanni6, Apr 10, 2015.

  1. Yanni6

    Yanni6 Newbie

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    There is a petition to stop yelp's unfair filter and prevent Google from favoring them so much. Only 61 more signatures are needed. Let's make it so outranking yelp is no longer practically impossible.

    http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/pay-it-forward-ban-yelp
     
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  2. Zwielicht

    Zwielicht Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Did you sign this petition only because Yelp is 'difficult' to outrank, or was your local business harmed by Yelp as well?
     
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  3. Nut-Nights

    Nut-Nights Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Really ? Yelp is a bitch.
     
  4. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    lol another SEO complaining about yelp.

    And do you really think Google is going to change its algorithm for a bunch of SEOs? I like Yelp and will often visit a site from Yelp, so it's a good thing for queries such as "Italian restaurants in x city."

    When search for a brand, I think the site itself should rank but when the site doesn't, it's often pointed out that the site structure/speed/etc are poor.
     
  5. JustUs

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    When you sign or begin petitions against something you are in the losing position from the beginning. Yelp is nothing more than an annoyance. However, they are an annoyance that terrifies many businesses. Some businesses offer free or reduced prices for yelp reviews, some business seek only one star reviews, some just give up.

    You are an SEO, you play in the underbelly of the search engine? Why are you worried about yelp, use the force.
     
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  6. Capo Dei Capi

    Capo Dei Capi BANNED BANNED

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    http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
     
  7. Content Mario

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    May i Know y u don't need the yelp. And one more thing i wont like the yelp becz they r doing the fake advertise and ranking by using the money.so i can support for that. Before that just give me the reason plz.
     
  8. paradisse

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    The only reliable place that you can trust. You get rated according to what you perform. The only place where competitor's negative reviews do not stick. So keep crying...
     
  9. deancow

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    61 more signatures until what? nothing will be done because a bunch of randoms signed and insignificant petition
     
  10. BreaknBrix

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    Just signed. We've had so many legit customers write AWESOME reviews just to have Yelp filter them. In fact, the happier the customers the more likely it is that Yelp filters the review. I think it's false / deceptive advertising for them to say they have the most "honest" review system when there are so many documented cases of them filtering so many legitimate reviews.

    And look, I realize that a petition probably won't do shit. But we ALL KNOW how crooked Yelp is and it takes 5 seconds to sign the damn thing.

    The point is to drive ATTENTION to an issue we all know exists.

    I personally think Yelp should be sued blind for deceptive advertising. And if they can't be sued, if it's legally impossible, I think marketers as a whole need to start campaigning against the use of Yelp. Press releases, stories, etc. Make a viral video compilation. Get real evidence and documents of their shady practices. All the claims they make on their website. Make a documentary about Yelp if you have to. Make the shit go viral.

    In all honesty I'd love to film a documentary about Yelp. I'd go around finding 100's of businesses, find all the real customers / documents of people who left legitimate reviews just to have them removed. Yelp will probably never be sued, but if enough negative attention can be drawn to them they WILL be forced to change. I'm usually not an activist towards any issues but OP if you need help with anything just PM me man. I'll fly around the whole fucking world finding and filming business owners. We can find people who's businesses and lives were ruined. Make it all emotional and shit. Find all the worst stories from Yelp. Then release it on NetFlix. :)
     
  11. JustUs

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    Yelp was sued and Yelp won:
    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...-9th-circuit-court-of-appeals-online-reviews/
    http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2014/09/02/11-17676.pdf (PDF of Ninth US Court of Appeal holding)
     
  12. BreaknBrix

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    True. The first suit was filed by some brokeass furniture salesman and there were many other suits that were combined and rejected.

    The 9th district court actually said, "even if Yelp did manipulate reviews in favor of advertisers this would not fall under the courts legal definition of extortion". So what the court REALLY SAID is it's perfectly legal for Yelp to suppress positive reviews of nonpaying businesses and do the exact opposite for paying businesses. However, there is a new and pending lawsuit not updated in Yelps Wiki that was filed by Yelps own shareholders...

    "Yelp insiders and executives sold off more than $81 million in artificially inflated stock while deceiving shareholders about the company?s business practices and financial outlook, shareholders are alleging in a federal class action lawsuit filed Wednesday in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.


    The suit, led by plaintiff Joseph Curry, alleges that the review website deceived shareholders about the quality of the reviews on its website and business practices including ?requiring business customers to pay to suppress negative reviews.? When information about the tactics became public, shares plummeted ? but, the suit alleges, not before top executives could unload shares at a major profit. Yelp CEO Jeremy Stoppelman, it alleges, sold over 132,000 shares for proceeds of over $2.5 million.


    This week Yelp celebrated its 10th anniversary. Last week, it reported its first quarterly profits, with shares at $67.78.


    Shares peaked in March 2014 at over $98, but began to sink after claims about extortion practices at the company resurfaced in March. They continued to fall after the Federal Trade Commission released a letter in April detailing the 2,046 complaints it had received about the company since 2008."



    All we need is 1 powerful figure like what Bill Ackman did to Herbalife stock. As big as Yelp is the lawsuits aren't stopping and the more popular they get the worse it's gonna get.

    A Harvard study found in 2006 that 6% of reviews on Yelp were fake then in 2014 >>20% of the reviews were fake.

    And Yelps algo is designed to treat 25% of all reviews as "suspicious".

    That's good news if you ask me. There is a clear correlation between Yelp's popularity and the rise of fake reviews. This is going to make shareholders more and more paranoid which will inevitably lead to more lawsuits & more merit to the suits. Also, top shareholders tend to have money. So again, all it's gonna take is 1 rich investor / shareholder to initiate a 50 million dollar campaign against Yelp. If it's executed properly, we won't need any successful suits in court. All we need is a greedy ass Bill Ackman type to leverage all the media coverage and lawsuits, conduct an internal investigation, and short their stock.

    I think it's somewhat odd that Yelps popularity was built on them having the most rigorous review algorithm. They're the only business who haven't revealed any specifics about their algo. Which led consumers to trust Yelp.

    But if 20% of all the reviews on Yelp are fake.... something is clearly not right. I think Yelp realized this at a certain point too. So they buffered themselves by incentivizing user engagement. Turning Yelp into a platform people can go to socialize rather than just leave reviews. I feel like at some point they slyly transformed their users commitment to trust.... to a commitment of "let's just fucking hang out on Yelp and talk about restaurants and shit". It was a brilliant branding strategy.

    And realistically, as much as I hate to say it, they'll probably be around forever.
     
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  13. magicman2003

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    should stop all bullies..!